Warren: If Calzaghe Beats Manfredo, Then Kessler Is Next

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  • valdosta
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    #41
    Originally posted by dr filth
    i want this fight to happen but kessler needs a tune up against a top 10 guy like lacy first or mundine, or maybe even the reaper of runcorn before he's ready for calz. kessler is good but calzaghe is a real step up from the guys he's been beating

    He already beat Mundine, I don't see how a rematch helps. It's kind of funny to me that people are questioning Kessler's comp but the truth is his recent comp has been better than Calzaghe's by a god bit.

    BTW- Calzaghe-Reid was a close fight no robbery. I had Calzaghe winning by 2.

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      #42
      Originally posted by valdosta
      He already beat Mundine, I don't see how a rematch helps. It's kind of funny to me that people are questioning Kessler's comp but the truth is his recent comp has been better than Calzaghe's by a god bit.

      BTW- Calzaghe-Reid was a close fight no robbery. I had Calzaghe winning by 2.
      just on the off chance that mundine is better now, i guess... yeah, kessler's never beaten up a junior middleweight yet. i guess he''s only allowed to start in on them if he gets all the belts

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        #43
        Originally posted by adrsan84
        I'm going to be optimistic and hope that the fight is made after Calzaghe decapitates Manfredo. I would go with Kessler by late stoppage, I don't think he has the power to stop Kessler and Kessler is just as talented a boxer in my opinion but I feel he is the stronger puncher. In a VERY entertaining and top class fight i would pick Kessler by late stoppage, a lot of punches thrown and landed by both fighter but Kessler's will have the long term effect on the older Calzaghe.



        I'd still be surprised if Calzaghe fought Kessler this year, because recent history seems to be full of British fighters being talked up for the big one, only to end up fighting no-hopers,like Warren said after Calzaghe fought Bika,next fight will be a mega-fight and it end up with Manfredo

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          #44
          Originally posted by valdosta
          He already beat Mundine, I don't see how a rematch helps. It's kind of funny to me that people are questioning Kessler's comp but the truth is his recent comp has been better than Calzaghe's by a god bit.

          BTW- Calzaghe-Reid was a close fight no robbery. I had Calzaghe winning by 2.

          Kessler has allready beat number 2,4 and 5 on The Ring Ratings list

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            #45
            Originally posted by jangeorg
            Kessler has allready beat number 2,4 and 5 on The Ring Ratings list
            Yep, Beyer,Andrade and Mundine. Like I said his recent comp has been better than Calzaghe's. That's not even a debate IMO. Calzaghe has been around a lot longer so overall he has faced a little bit better comp but he should, he's like 7 years older.

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              #46
              Originally posted by dr filth
              just on the off chance that mundine is better now, i guess... yeah, kessler's never beaten up a junior middleweight yet. i guess he''s only allowed to start in on them if he gets all the belts

              Why would Mundine be any better? He looked real good against Robotic Green and Soliman since losing to Kessler. However, he didn't fight badly against Kessler. He fought just as well, he was just fighting a better fighter. Mundine had a good performance against Mikkel though and I thought won 4 rounds.

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                #47
                Originally posted by jangeorg
                Moron,who the hell has Bika beat?,who has Manfredo beat?Kessler has beat a lot of bette opponents than these two.But it`s ok for them to fight Calzaghe in your opinion,but Kessler must prove himselfs before he can fight Calzaghe,get you head out of Calzaghe ass,MORON
                You danes are rude arent you and dont listen. Your putting me off Kessler now im telling you. Bika and Manfredo arent the best people Joe has ever fought, but if Kessler fought them, they just nearly might be the best Kessler had ever fought. Im not saying Kessler must prove himself to box Joe. Im just saying if Kessler beats a few more good people JOe would get great credit for beating a man who had beaten great great men. Is that so hard to understand? Other people on this board understand it. Why are you different? And get your head out of Kesslers ass, idiot!

                Originally posted by kingroy
                i think he is trying to say that kessler is really good, but f joe beats him now, as kessler is an unknown, he wont get the credit he deserves for beating a fighter of kesslers level, theyll reduce kessler to euro trash just to bash joe...
                Kingroy that is exacty what i mean.

                Yippee my 1000 post. Historical momemt for me.
                Last edited by hugh grant; 03-31-2007, 06:47 AM.

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                  #48
                  i wont believe it till the fight is signed i don't trust warren one bit.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by kingroy
                    i think he is trying to say that kessler is really good, but f joe beats him now, as kessler is an unknown, he wont get the credit he deserves for beating a fighter of kesslers level, theyll reduce kessler to euro trash just to bash joe...

                    It could happen. But it's not like Calzaghe is the only one faced with these kinds of issues. Imagine if Kessler won, how manny would dismiss the win saying Calzaghe was way past it. I don't see Calzaghe being any worse off than the next gut.
                    However, the more accomplished the opponent, the harder it is to diminish the win. And Kessler would by a clear margin be the most accomplished opponent Calzaghe will have faced since Eubank. Add to that Kessler should be in his prime.
                    No doubt some would say Kessler was never all that. But there'll always be excuses lining up - no matter who Joe fights - or who anyone fights.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by hugh grant
                      Im not saying Kessler must prove himself to box Joe. Im just saying if Kessler beats a few more good people JOe would get great credit for beating a man who had beaten great great men.
                      If Kessler waits 'till he's beaten a couple more quality opposition, Joe is likely well into retirement. But it seems to me that is actually what some Calzaghe-fans are hoping for, even if the would never admit it up front.
                      Also if Kessler were to beat two names of suffícient fame, to actually convince the Calzaghe-fans, that Kessler is now "worthy", I think Kessler would be well beyond caring about Calzaghe. If he did that he'd, already had far outdone Joe's lifetime accomplishments in the eyes of anyone not british. So Calzaghe wouldn't matter anymore.

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