Why is it one rule for Americans and one rule for everyone else?

[Guest]

Including??
Floyd Wayweather Jr.. 37 fights all in the USA
Jeramine Taylor... 26 fights .. all in the USA

Oh, that same Mayweather with those great American fans that booed him against Argentinean Carlos Baldomir? Mayweather hasn't fought in Michigan since he was a prospect.
Taylor doesn't get nearly the backing in Vegas or anywhere else that he received in Little Rock and Memphis. I don't consider fighting out of state in the US a fighter's backyard. Only his home state/city. Most Americans will see it that way...

[Run]

...Apart from American fighters? Its fair game for them not to leave the comfort of their own home because they are getting paid best there. Right?

That's correct.

That's why the competition is directly dependent on the amount of money paid for fights. Outside of the fan fights like Gatti/Ward......money attracts the finest fighters in the World. lol it's no damn secret that people in this business want to make money, and usually the best make the most money. Simple as that, there's really no other way to put it.

How much are Floyd and Oscar getting paid respectively? lol is there a correlation there? Are they not two of the best fighters in the sport? Oscar made his name as a draw being a great fighter in the U.S.A. Floyd is trying to exit his shadow. Where is this megafight taking place?



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[.Mik.]

Oh, that same Mayweather with those great American fans that booed him against Argentinean Carlos Baldomir? Mayweather hasn't fought in Michigan since he was a prospect.
Taylor doesn't get nearly the backing in Vegas or anywhere else that he received in Little Rock and Memphis. I don't consider fighting out of state in the US a fighter's backyard. Only his home state/city. Most Americans will see it that way...

I'll take that as being a semi-fair assessment. Though I'd say its the bad attitude and the arrogance that gets Floyd his nay-sayers, not where he fights.

That's correct.

That's why the competition is directly dependent on the amount of money paid for fights. Outside of the fan fights like Gatti/Ward......money attracts the finest fighters in the World. lol it's no damn secret that people in this business want to make money, and usually the best make the most money. Simple as that, there's really no other way to put it.

How much are Floyd and Oscar getting paid respectively? lol is there a correlation there? Are they not two of the best fighters in the sport? Oscar made his name as a draw being a great fighter in the U.S.A. Floyd is trying to exit his shadow. Where is this megafight taking place?

Thats fair enough. Personally, I'd say that every fighter should have to fight foreign every now and again, also that every fighter should have to step up to the plate and fight their nearest division rival according to the rankings, not the moronic belt rankings every couple of years too. It'd make champions more credible and it'd make boxing more exciting.

[Welter_Skelter]

Oh, that same Mayweather with those great American fans that booed him against Argentinean Carlos Baldomir? Mayweather hasn't fought in Michigan since he was a prospect.
Taylor doesn't get nearly the backing in Vegas or anywhere else that he received in Little Rock and Memphis. I don't consider fighting out of state in the US a fighter's backyard. Only his home state/city. Most Americans will see it that way...

Its is not the fans That decide fights.. it's the local establishment.. Fans were Booing Valuev when he beat Ruiz.. But you had to know if Ruiz didnt KO BIG Nick.. he didn't have a chance of winning...
Its funny aint it then that Americans can Unite against the rest of the world.. But will bicker over a state line..

[TheEvilSaint]

i do not begrudge any UK fighter who stays in the UK, calzone included. hatton or calzone can easily pack 20,000 people in the arena in the UK. here in america, big name fights usually draw around 8,000.

the fans in the UK are fanatical, so why wouldnt calzone want to stay in the UK? the fans are much more appreciative, the gate is much much bigger, they get more money, while in america, he'd probly get booed out of the building either because he fights a boring fight or just because hes a foreigner.

the same can NOT be said for german fighters. they stay in germany because of the security and the bias. the crowds are slightly bigger than american crowds and only slightly more enthusiastic. so it cant be the crowd nor the gate that keeps them in germany.

UK fighters stay in the UK cuz they love the fans and the fans love them.

german fighters stay in germany cuz they know that they have a 99.9% chance of winning.

american fighters stay in america cuz they're a bunch of spoiled b****.

[squealpiggy]

It looks like we've managed to whittle down the nature of the question to the true question that is really being asked. We know why the fights in the States matter to the boxers. The US is the mecca of boxing, I'm prepared to concede that. There is more money paid to top boxers in the US, I can concede that point as well. It's obvious why boxing in the US matters to European fighters. But now we reach the real question: Why does it matter to US fans where a fighter earns his victories? Who do US fans even care where a fighter peddles his trade?

And this is the problem area.

[Dimebar]

Europe can sink for all I care, I can't stand robots and I can't stand Thatcher.

I LMAO when Thatcher feinted that time, it was on the ITN News at Ten live if I remember. Back in about '88. Funny as ****.


JEFF

[Guest]

But now we reach the real question: Why does it matter to US fans where a fighter earns his victories? Who do US fans even care where a fighter peddles his trade?

It doesn't matter where a fighter fights at all. The problem is we have guys like Calzaghe, Wonkongjam, Chris John, etc. who are "kings" of their divisions yet they have these awful resumes because they refuse to leave their home turf. That is the problem. Real fighters on their resumes are few and far between because of their reluctance to fight even on neutral territory. The fact is somebody has to travel in order to make a fight happen. If these guys refuse to travel each and every fight, they deserve the criticism...

[Dimebar]

John Conteh > Bob Foster, Michael Spinks

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Nah.

I don't know.

[SquareCircle]

Put it this way.

If you're fighting in Vegas, you have a chance at a fair shake, even if you're a foreigner we're at war with. I dont care what people say, I guaran-****ing-tee if a guy tries to quit a fight in Vegas, they let him quit.

If you're fighting in Germany, and you aren't German, you're ****ed if it goes to the cards. ****, boxing is so warped over there if you try to quit you can't even ****ing quit. these days u try to quit, you gonna get punked by the ref. ask arthur abraham, wtf was thast **** about!??

lets not even talk about how much of a fair shake we get in asia.

and so forth...