was listons power overrated?.

[catskills23]

patterson said that ingemar johannson hit harder than liston. foreman says cooney and lyle hit harder than liston.

[paul750]

Well, let's look at my list.

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Earnie Shavers
4. Sonny Liston
5. George Foreman

That looks to be fair to me.

Louis and Rocky the top two? Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Rocky hit hard P4P no doubt, but there's no way he hit like Shavers, Cooney, Foreman etc.

[Southpaw Stinger]

I feel like making a top 10, it's fun.
1-Earnie Shavers
2-George Foreman
3-David Tua
4-Rocky Marciano
5-Mike Tyson
6-Joe Louis
7-Tommy Morrison
8-Sonny Liston
9-Frank Bruno
10-Gerry Cooney

Pretty good list yaman, Rocky's a bit high though and Liston, Cooney and Bruno a bit low in my oppinion.

I'd make it;

1. Shavers
2. Foreman
3. Cooney
4. Tua
5. Liston
6. Tyson
7. Bruno
8. Marciano
9. Louis
10. Morrison

[The Surgeon]

ali never said that liston hit harder than foreman . in every interview that ali has given whenever he was asked who was the hardest puncher he faced . 2 names only ever come up foreman and shavers.

Mabey it was BEFORE he fought George but i can definatly remember hearing some **** like that. Im 90% sure

[The Surgeon]

Well, let's look at my list.

1. Joe Louis
2. Rocky Marciano
3. Earnie Shavers
4. Sonny Liston
5. George Foreman

That looks to be fair to me.

I Respect ur opinion alot man but for me Rocky is Way too high i d rate him under Tua, Tyson, Morrison, Foreman, Shavers and even Lennox. P4P? Different story!

[The Noose]

i think it was . his knockout percetage isnt that impressive and the guys he knocked out were small with weak chins like patterson and foley.

Patterson did not have a weak chin.
People believe that because he was KTFO by Liston. And Johansson. But thats it.
He faced big punchers like Quarry and Bonavena.
If his chin was weak Ali would of KO'd him.

But it was only Listons destruction that makes people believe that his chin was weak.

Liston has a good KO ratio. Its similar to Lennox Lewis and Bowes.
Liston isnt the KO monster Tyson and Foreman were. He is always reffered to as a big punching, skilled boxer.

People will always over and underrate legends.

[The Surgeon]

People will always over and underrate legends.

Great point

[catskills23]

Mabey it was BEFORE he fought George but i can definatly remember hearing some **** like that. Im 90% sure

exactly it was before he foght foreman . so how could he know how hard foreman. After the fight ali said foreman hit harder than he imagined any fighter could . He said something like "foreman hit me so hard that my ancestors in africa felt it".

[The Surgeon]

exactly it was before he foght foreman . so how could he know how hard foreman. After the fight ali said foreman hit harder than he imagined any fighter could . He said something like "foreman hit me so hard that my ancestors in africa felt it".

OK. Duznt matter anyway, loads of fighters say they got hit harder by this guy or that guy when others say the oppisite! For da record
Georges power > Sonnys!

[BKM-]

Pretty good list yaman, Rocky's a bit high though and Liston, Cooney and Bruno a bit low in my oppinion.

I'd make it;

1. Shavers
2. Foreman
3. Cooney
4. Tua
5. Liston
6. Tyson
7. Bruno
8. Marciano
9. Louis
10. Morrison

Yeah maybe you're right. I think Louis had was better in punching in general, great puncher. And marciano due to his size but he is up there. That's a very good list.