Evander Holyfield: "Mike Tyson Took Steroids"

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  • CletusVanDamme
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    #21
    Originally posted by VERSATILE2K7
    Its not that hard to get ripped fast if u have the right genes. I forgot what the word is,but its said that tyson can develop muscle rather quickly.I can do situps for 3 weeks straight and see more muscles. just gotta have it.
    You could be right, but Mikes desire to train went down yet he physique seemed to improve. He is genetically gifted though. I can also build muscle rather easily, but my father and uncle are both extremely muscular. It has always been easy for me.

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    • kayjay
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      #22
      All the big athletes of that time were juycing. It's silly of fans to even worry about, or try to exempt the guy they are a fan of. Some ****** was even trying to claim Roy Jones never juyced.

      Badblood even said Bonds never juyced.


      They all did, the Klits, Tyson, Holyfield, McGwire, Roy Jones, and a ****inh thousand others.

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      • Benny Leonard
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        #23
        Originally posted by CletusVanDamme
        I didn't get really su****ious of Mike until he dropped the weight before the Eitienne fight. He got really ripped in a short period of time, similar to what Winstrol will do to you. Holyfield has used roids for bulking purposes though.
        I was doing my own research into Tyson and found he was working with a new nutrionist/trainer for that fight, I stated it before. I will try to find the person's name. It is quite possible, I don't doubt anything in today's world.

        However, we must mention, if Tyson did use steroids, D'amato, Rooney, Jacobs, and Cayton, some of the biggest names in the history of the sport, are partially responisble.

        The only comment I ever remember reading about Tyson talking about steroids was when he was asked in an article about James Toney, and Tyson said something like, 'could you imagine if I took steroids, I would be a lethal weapon, they would hang me for that' {something on those lines}. How true the artricle was, I don't know, anything is possible in this world of fake bull****.

        Brian Kenny did once ask Teddy Atlas on ESPN about if he knew any fighter that was on steroids...Atlas replied something like {since you must forgive my bad memory}, I knew {or heard about} a fighter that was taking them, but when he got off them, he wasn't as confident. Now this could be anybody, from the people he knew around the gym, to one of his fighter's opponents (who funny enough is accused at the moment and will not mention any names since that will not be Holy to the sport), to one of his own fighters.

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        • Benny Leonard
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          #24
          Originally posted by CletusVanDamme
          You could be right, but Mikes desire to train went down yet he physique seemed to improve. He is genetically gifted though. I can also build muscle rather easily, but my father and uncle are both extremely muscular. It has always been easy for me.
          Well I can give a good argument:

          First, Tyson was 220 in his younger days anyway, right?

          Well, by the time he got out of prison and started training he was already in his mid-late 20's, and by then the hormone DHT is released at higher level. DHT is responsible for muscle strength, which improves muscle. He was still around the same weight, 220-225. By this time, I am sure he hired a nutritionist who could workout his diet. The slightest change in your diet can alter the way you look for the better, ex: Eat a lot of pasta for a week, look at the difference. At least that's how it works for me.

          For the negative, the obvious, Tyson is in the pool with the other athletes accused.

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          • Benny Leonard
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            #25
            Originally posted by kayjay
            All the big athletes of that time were juycing. It's silly of fans to even worry about, or try to exempt the guy they are a fan of. Some ****** was even trying to claim Roy Jones never juyced.

            Badblood even said Bonds never juyced.


            They all did, the Klits, Tyson, Holyfield, McGwire, Roy Jones, and a ****inh thousand others.
            You still need proof Kayjay.

            If everybody is doing it, than Tiger Woods is as well. Same with Roger Federar and the rest. After all, look at how great they are.

            What would make you think everybody did?
            Because of the "Times", the muscle, or something else?

            Like I said, steroids have been out since the 1930's so everybody is suspect from that point on.
            Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-14-2007, 10:54 AM.

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            • SquareCircle
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              #26
              Originally posted by CletusVanDamme
              Tyson probably took Steroids after prison for cutting purposes I am almost positive. Holyroid as you say took them much longer and much more often without a doubt. This shows his true colors. Mr I am a huge Christian yet I have a hundred illegitimate children and frequently commit adultery. Tyson recognizes his flaws and talks about them Evander doesn't think he has any. And somehow Tyson is the one people don't like.
              at least, when evander loses, he loses like a man.

              my stance has nothing to do with tyson's out-of-the-ring behavior. which was pretty ****ed up, looking back.

              evander won't punk out and bite u, or hit buster mathis jr. after he's down. or hit the ref during the savarese bout. or elbow seldon,or trying to break botha's arm, or hit orlin norris,among others,after the bell, etc. tyson has exceeded any and all excuses for behavior in the ring, he doesn't respect the sports rules and regulations, and never has.

              I mean, selling a fight and **** is cool, but you can do that without charging at a man and biting his leg at a press conference. that **** is just ugly.


              ps who cares who,when,or what he ****ed while he was married. Personally I think the dude was spiritual to be a role model for his children, but maybe he's a little more religious than average,probably because of his last name. I can see evander convincing himself that he's some kind of prophet because his last name is holyfield.
              Last edited by SquareCircle; 03-14-2007, 10:54 AM.

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              • Hydro
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                #27
                Originally posted by SquareCircle
                at least, when evander loses, he loses like a man.

                my stance has nothing to do with tyson's out-of-the-ring behavior. which was pretty ****ed up, looking back.

                evander won't punk out and bite u, or hit buster mathis jr. after he's down. or hit the ref during the savarese bout. or elbow seldon,or trying to break botha's arm, or hit orlin norris,among others,after the bell, etc. tyson has exceeded any and all excuses for behavior in the ring, he doesn't respect the sports rules and regulations, and never has.

                I mean, selling a fight and **** is cool, but you can do that without charging at a man and biting his leg at a press conference. that **** is just ugly.
                The biting, arm-breaking, and going around the ref were disgraceful.

                The others weren't all that terrible or unusual (lots of guys, including Holyfield, hit after the bell and use elbows/forearms).

                It was Rid**** Bowe who hit Mathis when he was down.

                Those damn Brooklynites always being dirty.

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                • Welter_Skelter
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                  You still need proof Kayjay.

                  If everybody is doing it, than Tiger Woods is as well. Same with Roger Federar and the rest. After all, look at how great they are.

                  What would make you think everybody did?
                  Because of the "Times", the muscle, or something else?

                  Like I said, steroids have been out since the 1930's so everybody is suspect from that point on.
                  If you cheat.. then I must cheat also just to level the playing field.. thats why I know everbody is doing it..

                  And Golf dont count.. thats is just hand eye coridination
                  No different or taxing than me playing the PS2 and then going for a 3 mile walk

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                  • Bucktown Beast
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                    #29
                    Crazy. The hatchet is coming down. This is good as an admission from Holyfield.

                    Whenever an athlete says "ok, i think I unknowingly took something...". It means that they knowingly took something.

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                    • Crazy Dude
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                      #30
                      This statement comes across like a confession. He's saying 'ya I took steroids but I didn't know what they were and I only used them briefly'. He's copping to it and at the same time trying to minimize his guilt. Same thing with naming Tyson. I don't think he's trying to snitch or divert attention so much as trying to justify himself and minimize what he's done. He's saying 'look if I didn't take steroids Tyson would have had an unfair advantage over me'

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