Hall-of-Famer Thinks Evander Holyfield is Anything But 'The Real Deal'

[Kid Achilles]

WLADEK ZBYSZKO, more of a strongman type


The great Polish strongman and wrestler. At the time of this photograph in 1920, he had the following measurements: neck 22", chest 55", biceps 22", forearm 18", wrist 13", thigh 31", calf 19". Not only was his brother a wrestler and strongman, but some of his descendants were professional wrestlers, as well.

Holy ****, that guy is an ox!

[Southpaw16]

Some of Quawi allegations are ridiculous. The steriod cream allegation is absurd. There isn't any such cream that provides instant help, and they can't just rub the whole upper body with some cream without anyone noticing. I also don't believe that he was given some magical drink either. If he was, why the hell would he not just take this magical drink before the fight? Wouldn't there be a huge risk of someone noticing since the fight was being broadcast. Quawi's whole su****ions rest on something his trainer said between rounds and nothing he even saw with his own eyes. How could Quawi's trainer possibly even get a look at the other guys corner when his back is too them while he is talking between rounds?

I think that Holyfield has probably used steriods. But I also find it unfair how some athletes are highly suspected of steriod use, and some of them nobody suspects and this is largely due to how popular or unpopular they might be.

Everyone is saying that Roy Jones has used. Nobody however, would dare suggest Bernard Hopkins has used steriods when his diet and routine during his middleweight to lightheavyweight transtion was being overseen by the exact same guy who oversaw Jones's transition from lightweight to heavyweight. Also Hopkins seems to have this ability to pretty much not age.

Lennox Lewis is very similar physical stature to Wladimir Klitschko, and he has never been accused while Klitchko has.

Am I accusing Hopkins of Lewis of being on steriods? No. I'm just saying that we can't accuse certain fighters of being steriod users because we don't like them, while other guys go completely under the radar.

[Benny Leonard]

from

http://halteurope2007.free.fr/eupean/haltero/histoire2.htm

[Benny Leonard]

Holy ****, that guy is an ox!

well this is his brother:

Info:Brother of the great Polish wrestler Wladek Zbyszko in a photo taken around 1924. Born in Lodlowa, Poland on April 1, 1879. He was the heavyweight wrestling champion of the world 3 times. Dispelling the myth that muscular men are unintelligent, he could speak 5 languages fluently, and several of the Baltic dialects. He was named as one of the four strongest men in the world at one time. His weight in this fine photograph was 230 lbs. This is an amazing image, since Stan was already 50 years old here, yet still sported a 21" upper arm and a 50" chest.He starred in a "film noir" movie made in 1950 as a character named "Gregorius the Great ". His only film apprearance. He was already 71 at the time.
He died on September 22, 1967 in St. Joseph, Missouri at age 88.

Here's a good pic

[dino]

i wonder what were some of those guys routines, or did they just lift heavy **** or did they actually have a regime

[Benny Leonard]

Bobby Pandour
He stood 5'6" and weighed 160 lbs.



CLEVIO MASSIMO



JOHN GARAN


He stood 5 feet 5 inches and weighted 155 lbs.

JOE BONOMO

[Benny Leonard]

i wonder what were some of those guys routines, or did they just lift heavy **** or did they actually have a regime

Here's the sight...Sandow wrote a book and so did others. You could probably find more info if you search.

http://www.sandowmuseum.com/index.html

[Kid Achilles]

Yes they had routines.

[Benny Leonard]

GEORGE HACKENSCHMIDT

[butterfly1964]

Bobby Pandour
He stood 5'6" and weighed 160 lbs.

Something doesn't look right here.