david tua knocked out in the amateurs

[Benny Leonard]

That punch was full leverage, I don't know what you're talking about...
I'm not sure if Tyson was knocked down in amateurs, but he was knocked down with a single punch while sparring...

Tyson from what I know was never down in the amatuers. He was down in sparring like you said, but it was a shot right on the chin, as he was punching and he fell forward, and not backward on his ass; basically it was a flash-knockdown, so nothing much. However, it proved to be telling since it showed Tyson's defense had become ****. Tyson was supposedly getting his ass beat even before he left for Tokyo. I think he was also knocked down by McCall leading up to the fight.

Tua was hurt, but hey, he was still very young and wasn't fully matured.

Tua was never seriously hurt again after he matured, so my case is complete. Don't bring up that **** knockdown with Rahman because Tua was exhausted, throwing **** to the wind, his feet up in the air, and Rahman threw a punch to knock fat Tua of balance.

[hugh grant]

If Tyson had never been down in the amatuers, that to me sounds impressive. But hey, is it common for boxing champions to not have tasted the canvas as amatuers. I think i have heard quite a few boxers say they have never been down, even in the Amatuers. I think Amir Khan even said it.
And i saw the knockdown of Tyson by sparring partner and it was nothing really. Almost off balance. But Tua did look pretty groggy. Very groggy actually.

[Benny Leonard]

If Tyson had never been down in the amatuers, that to me sounds impressive. But hey, is it common for boxing champions to not have tasted the canvas as amatuers. I think i have heard quite a few boxers say they have never been down, even in the Amatuers. I think Amir Khan even said it.
And i saw the knockdown of Tyson by sparring partner and it was nothing really. Almost off balance. But Tua did look pretty groggy. Very groggy actually.

considering he didn't fight that much in the amatuers compared to others, it isn't that impressive.

Hey, Tyson was sparring with grown men at a young age. I think he sparred with Bruno at like 15 or 16. He would train with no headgear sometimes. Other times he would wear a thin piece of headgear.

I think Oliver McCall was never down.

[hugh grant]

considering he didn't fight that much in the amatuers compared to others, it isn't that impressive.

Hey, Tyson was sparring with grown men at a young age. I think he sparred with Bruno at like 15 or 16. He would train with no headgear sometimes. Other times he would wear a thin piece of headgear.

I think Oliver McCall was never down.

Not being knocked down as an Amatuer always sounds impressive to me, because i always imagine Amatuers as having 100's and 100's of fights. I dont think i ever heard Tyson sparring at 15 with Bruno though.
But i think Audley Harrison said hed nev er been down as well, so it doesnt mean much i guess.

[me2007]

felix savon didn`t want to turn pro thats the reason he turned down all those millions. To him, the respect of his family and friends and Cuba is more important than money....it was on a program called 'boxeo cuba'..might be on youtube

Lennox Lewis sparred with Tyson when they were about 15

[Shanus]

Second best amateur heavyweight of all time IMO, the amateur equivalent of a Joe Louis. Judging by what I've seen, I took a personal preference to Teofilo Stevenson, but getting KO'd by Savon is nothing to be ashamed of at all.

[Benny Leonard]

felix savon didn`t want to turn pro thats the reason he turned down all those millions. To him, the respect of his family and friends and Cuba is more important than money....it was on a program called 'boxeo cuba'..might be on youtube

Lennox Lewis sparred with Tyson when they were about 15

Yeah, the respect he could lose from his country and his family if he lost, especially by KO.

What's greater than "Olympic Gold Medalist"? I will tell you, "Heavyweight Champion of the World"; doesn't get much bigger than that. His country is dirt poor, yet he doesn't want to make millions to give to his people, please, stop the bull****.

Amatuer fighting and Pro fighting are just two different levels. Savon wouldn't be fighting children either.

Nobody can say "He would of been a great Pro and would of been dominated", simply because we have seen time after time amatuers that move up to pro, get blown out.

Savon was a Great Amatuer, we will leave it at that.

[CletusVanDamme]

We brushed up on that before. Forget the "What if Ibeabuchi" bull****.

What if Savon turned pro? Yikes.

He would have been knocked out as soon as he was cracked. Another Audley mark my words. He was stopped too many times to ever make it as a pro. Roberto Balado would have made the better pro.

[Benny Leonard]

Cletus:

That's a nice pic of Jack Johnson. I tried looking for a nice one, but didn't find one as nice as yours. You "MF"

[SnoopySmurf]

I agree. Savon was a man beating up on a young teen. Everyone thought Teofolo Stevenson would also give Ali a handful if he turned pro. I doubt it, as his experience was entirely on beating up teenage Olympian amateurs.

"Yikes" what?

The guy has been defeated many times and has been knocked out as well. What does that prove? he was human.

Amatuer boxing is also different from Pro. How many Amatuer fighters have we seen not make good Pro's?

You just don't know. At least with IKE, we saw him fight Pro, and saw his talent at a pro level, fighting Tua in his prime. Not a young boy still trying to grow some hair on his balls like Savon liked to beat up on.

Savon was a great amatuer, but lets not get ahead of ourselves.