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  • wmute
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    #41
    Originally posted by K-DOGG
    Styles and power mainly. Hearns was knocking out light-heavies and Robinson was cold-****ing grranite chinned middlweights. Also both were bigger that Floyd who started off at 130, had a longer reach, better power, and were as fast. Style-wise, both would have been nightmares for Floyd. Just because he hasn't lost against the opposistion he's fought, it doestn' make him invincible by any means.

    Hell, from a style perspective, I'd favour a prime Marlon Starling, who was a very cagey Welterweight Champ......and bested Floyd Sr. twice, who essentially had the same stlye, to beat Jr. by decision.
    man,

    you are slipping if you have to use this kind of "logic"

    this is like those that say that if you KO wlad, then you can KO vitali

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    • ThaHorseman
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      #42
      Originally posted by K-DOGG
      1. I've seen enough footage of Gans and Armstrong to know how good they are and to form an intelligent opinon.

      2. Benny Leonard, ...NOT RAY. Don't argue if you don't know who you're talking about.

      3. I did counter-act what you suggested, so drop the word play. You wanted names of fighters who I honestly think Floyd would have trouble beating and I gave them to you. It's not my fault if you've never takent the time to study the history of the sport and are completely overwhelmed by the hype promoters throw out there for sheep to eat.
      Well at least you aren't being a **** about it.
      1. You say Leonard, I think Sugar Ray Leonard. Most people do.
      2. Benny Leonard goes right along with Gans and Armstrong. ANCIENT.
      3. I asked for fighters 140 and down that could beat Floyd, you gave me a bunch of guys who my great grandfather watched and some guys that ended their careers up around light heavyweight.
      4. Thank you, come again.

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      • bigtime9
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        #43
        Well at least you aren't being a **** about it.
        1. You say Leonard, I think Sugar Ray Leonard. Most people do.
        2. Benny Leonard goes right along with Gans and Armstrong. ANCIENT.
        3. I asked for fighters 140 and down that could beat Floyd, you gave me a bunch of guys who my great grandfather watched and some guys that ended their careers up around light heavyweight.
        4. Thank you, come again.
        you just that guy. I have floyd top 10 if he beats oscar that would be five titlkes in five weight classes undfeeated...never been done before in the history of boxing. A victory over oscar moves floyd into the top 5 personally I would have him #2 behind sugar ray robinson

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        • DiegoFuego
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          #44
          Originally posted by K-DOGG
          He wouldn't beat Pryor or Duran; and I'm not even going to go into Gans, Leonard, and Armstrong.

          Robinson and Hearns would KHTFO, Walker would eat him alive...

          So, in short, YES I can say it.
          Still opinions.

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          • DiegoFuego
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            #45
            Originally posted by wmute
            man,

            you are slipping if you have to use this kind of "logic"

            this is like those that say that if you KO wlad, then you can KO vitali
            Desperate men reach

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            • monkeyboy
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              #46
              K-Dogg has answered every question put to him intelligently and truthfully. He has obviously spent a lot of time watching fights and reading about them.

              Don't even ask about 'Best of ALL TIME' if you haven't watched and researched boxers from ALL TIMES!!!!!!

              Obvious!

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              • -Antonio-
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                #47
                Originally posted by bigtime9
                you just that guy. I have floyd top 10 if he beats oscar that would be five titlkes in five weight classes undfeeated...never been done before in the history of boxing. A victory over oscar moves floyd into the top 5 personally I would have him #2 behind sugar ray robinson
                You and I both know he is a three division champ. The ABC belts dont matter anymore. Its about the ring titles, and Im not sure if Oscar is the Ring champ, but he shouldnt be. Cory Spinks should be the Ring champ.

                Floyd even says himself the belts dont matter. Of course he then goes on to contradict himself by saying hes a 5 division champion.

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                • brownpimp88
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                  #48
                  K-dogg has a wierd top 10 p4p list. I love modern fighters but i would never think about putting roy in it. Muhammad Ali beat virtually every important heavyweight from the 60's and 70's. He lost a few fights, big deal no one is superman. Ali clearly deserves to be top 10 p4p of all times. He has beat 4 guys that are in the ring magazine top 80 of the last 80 years. Only 1 man beat more guys from that list, sugar ray robinson.

                  Sugar ray leonard has also defeated 4 guys that are true elites, i would put him on there.

                  In all honesty, i hold julio cesar chavez in a higher regard than roy jones jr. People bash him for fighting tijiuana cab drivers, i dont get it. If you compare the list of guys that chavez beat with the ones that roy beat, chavez is superior.

                  I rank roy the same way ring magazine does, top 40 but definetly not top 10.

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                  • pbftxrs316
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by monkeyboy
                    K-Dogg has answered every question put to him intelligently and truthfully. He has obviously spent a lot of time watching fights and reading about them.

                    Don't even ask about 'Best of ALL TIME' if you haven't watched and researched boxers from ALL TIMES!!!!!!

                    Obvious!
                    i'll agree he answred questions intelligently but to say truthfully is pushing it. claiming that hearns and leonard, and gans, and those other great legends would beat or knock floyd out isn't truthful because you agree with it, but it's assumption and opinion, and you're pushing his opinions off as if they are facts just because you agree with him. now that's some truth for you.

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                    • Gerry M
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by aps214
                      Does he then rank in your top 10 P4P all-time? I'd put him top 5, I'm just curious to see if his haters would even acknowledge his greatness at that point.
                      He's already my #1 all-time lb4lb.

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