Hypothetical: Floyd dominates DLH enroute to a wide UD...

[K-DOGG]

tommy hearns was the 154 champ, not davey moore.
sumbu kalambay was considered the real middleweight champ, not iran barkely.

Hearns was the 154 Lb champ, it is true; but Leonard was the Welterweight champ and one of the best ever...and Duran beat him...that's two.

Kalambay was NOT the Middleweight Champ. After Leonard gave up the title, there were three. Hearns, Tate, and Kalambay, with Hearns being the Most respected....and he was stopped by Barkley in 3, who then lost to Duran.

[ThaHorseman]

Can anyone really say that Floyd wouldn't beat any fighter in history that was naturally fighting at 140 or less? And would beat almost all of the greatest WW?

[K-DOGG]

Can anyone really say that Floyd wouldn't beat any fighter in history that was naturally fighting at 140 or less? And would beat almost all of the greatest WW?

He wouldn't beat Pryor or Duran; and I'm not even going to go into Gans, Leonard, and Armstrong.

Robinson and Hearns would KHTFO, Walker would eat him alive...

So, in short, YES I can say it.

[Jim_Davis]

People dont like to give respect to fighters of the modern era. If he beats Hatton he ruins Hatton's 100 percent record and DLH is a very good fighter. Bearing all that, he retires undefeated scoring wins against the best fighters of his era. What more does he have to do?

[K-DOGG]

People dont like to give respect to fighters of the modern era. If he beats Hatton he ruins Hatton's 100 percent record and DLH is a very good fighter. Bearing all that, he retires undefeated scoring wins against the best fighters of his era. What more does he have to do?

As a general rule, I don't rank fighters or even try to until they are retired from the game or in their final years and past their best. If Mayweather does take on and beat all the best fighters of his era, then he would have to be looked at seiously. But all this stuff now is pure, unadulterated hype around that "0" on his record. I'm not a stat-man; could care less about numbers because boxing and greatness is far more than that. Floyd does appear to have greatness in him; but beating the Gattis and the Mitchells and even the Baldomir's of the world isn't going to prove it. Right now he's got some damn good welterweights around him in Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, and Williams...and there are a few others. If he wants to claim he's one of the best ever, there's only one thing to do....and that's kicking some serious ass and leaving no room for doubt so that guys like me can't argue otherwise.

Like I said, he's got some work to do. I do think he's one of the better 130 Lbers of all time; but if he wants the p4p mantle, there are some live bodies out there for him to go through.


...and for the record, I am not a "hater". I thoroughly appreciate Floyd's talent and his skills and I do see the potential there; but as of now, he's not proven himself to be as great a champ as Pernell Whitaker, much less Sugar Ray Robinson.

[-EX-]

Top 15 I'd have him in. Best fighter of his generation IMO.

[aps214]

As a general rule, I don't rank fighters or even try to until they are retired from the game or in their final years and past their best. If Mayweather does take on and beat all the best fighters of his era, then he would have to be looked at seiously. But all this stuff now is pure, unadulterated hype around that "0" on his record. I'm not a stat-man; could care less about numbers because boxing and greatness is far more than that. Floyd does appear to have greatness in him; but beating the Gattis and the Mitchells and even the Baldomir's of the world isn't going to prove it. Right now he's got some damn good welterweights around him in Cotto, Mosley, Margarito, and Williams...and there are a few others. If he wants to claim he's one of the best ever, there's only one thing to do....and that's kicking some serious ass and leaving no room for doubt so that guys like me can't argue otherwise.

Like I said, he's got some work to do. I do think he's one of the better 130 Lbers of all time; but if he wants the p4p mantle, there are some live bodies out there for him to go through.


...and for the record, I am not a "hater". I thoroughly appreciate Floyd's talent and his skills and I do see the potential there; but as of now, he's not proven himself to be as great a champ as Pernell Whitaker, much less Sugar Ray Robinson.

KDogg where do you rate Roy all time?

[niceguy45]

People dont like to give respect to fighters of the modern era. If he beats Hatton he ruins Hatton's 100 percent record and DLH is a very good fighter. Bearing all that, he retires undefeated scoring wins against the best fighters of his era. What more does he have to do?

all those great fighters clear the division, floyd has only fought 2 of the top 10 welter weight class, which he hand picked thatis baldomir and judah.....he moved-up to fight oscar more cuz of the $$$$$$ involved knowing he will make more this night than he did his entire career, i think lose or win he shoud come back down,
and fight cotto, margarito, mosley, cintron, williams if no ducking or anything like that, simply to clear ring magazines', people in general where he stands really p4p all time

[ThaHorseman]

He wouldn't beat Pryor or Duran; and I'm not even going to go into Gans, Leonard, and Armstrong.

Robinson and Hearns would KHTFO, Walker would eat him alive...

So, in short, YES I can say it.

You must mean Joe Gans. The one from the early 1900's. Exactly how many fights of his have you watched? Same with Armstrong. So you're right, you shouldn't get into them. Leonard would most likely beat Floyd, but Floyd would put up a fight. Not bad considering Leonard never fought below 147. I guess Pryor and Duran comes down to opinion because I don't think either would beat Floyd. And Walker who? Not Mickey Walker I hope. so based on the 140 and below part of what I asked you only named Duran, Pryor and ancient fighters that nobody has really ever seen much or anything of. And only named a couple above 140 that would beat him, which is exactly what I said.

[Easy-E]

He wouldn't beat Pryor or Duran; and I'm not even going to go into Gans, Leonard, and Armstrong.

Robinson and Hearns would KHTFO, Walker would eat him alive...

So, in short, YES I can say it.

I have seen no evidence that Floyd would get "KTFO'D" by fighters like Hearns or Robinson.
In reality, Floyd probably has a better chin then both of them.
His defense is also better, and he has excellent speed.
Just in the way your saying these guys would KO Floyd, one can say Floyd would decision them with ease.
Attempting to convey your opinion as fact in regards to fantasy fights is foolish.