How much does COMMENTARY mean to a FIGHT???

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  • phallus
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    #21
    i like kellerman, he usually sees it the way i see it. i don't really like when they're biased agianst my fighters though. i've heard close fights described as one sided - that really pisses me off

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    • ßringer
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      #22
      Originally posted by dr filth
      i like kellerman, he usually sees it the way i see it. i don't really like when they're biased agianst my fighters though. i've heard close fights described as one sided - that really pisses me off
      Likewise. Hopkins-Taylor comes to mind for me. Taylor being HBO's "next big bank" and Hopkins being "the old guy". Those 2 fights were much, much closer than the commentary would lead you to believe. I still think Hopkins won the first Taylor fight, and Taylor won the second.

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      • K-DOGG
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        #23
        Originally posted by Kball15
        Would LEONARD-HEARNS be such a classic if it didnt have the famous COSELL call?

        Would GATTI-WARD be considered one of the greatest fights ever if it werent for LAMPLEY being at his best?


        The reason i ask, is because TONEY-JIROV is considered a great fight, but when mentioning the great fights of the last decade i never see this fight get brought up. Maybe its because LAMPLEY and co. were completely out of the fight until the 12th round.

        ANd i watched GATTI-WARD with a different call, and it just wasnt the same. Still an amazing fight, but not that level of "Greatest fight ever"

        thoughts?
        In regards to the phenomenon of a "great call" of a great fight....yes. The commentators can create, or rather "frame" our memories of the contest with the right phrase at the right time.

        For example, whenever I think of Douglas-Tyson, I think of Leonard saying, OH, THE UPPERCUT!!" When I think about Foreman-Frazier I, how can you not think of Cosell's DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!"?

        At their very best, commentators paint a picture with words, even if you don't have video to go along with the fight. They are the "highlights" on the painting of a great fight.

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        • phallus
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          #24
          Originally posted by The_Bringer
          Likewise. Hopkins-Taylor comes to mind for me. Taylor being HBO's "next big bank" and Hopkins being "the old guy". Those 2 fights were much, much closer than the commentary would lead you to believe. I still think Hopkins won the first Taylor fight, and Taylor won the second.
          that's exactly what i think of hopkins - taylor.

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          • freedom213
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            #25
            2 more recent fights come to mind: Hopkins Taylor 1 where HBO and company were so far up Taylors ass they could smell his breath and Gatti Baldomir. I watched that fight with british commentary one night and couldn't believe how good Gatti did when he chose to box Baldomir.

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            • AintGottaClue
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              #26
              Lampley at his best makes the moment more enjoyable, cause he is getting paid to go beserk like we all do when something exciting is happening and expresses alot of our feelings

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              • jcarr71
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                #27
                I get really frustrated with commentators. I wish the play by play men would simply just call what is going on. Do not talk about anything else except for what is happening in the ring at that moment. Let the two color guys interject their observations. Also, always look for something good to say. Nothing ruins a fight more than commentators being downers. It just makes a fight next to impossible to get into. I spend more time being annoyed with them then I do enjoying the match.

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                • Kball15
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by K-DOGG
                  In regards to the phenomenon of a "great call" of a great fight....yes. The commentators can create, or rather "frame" our memories of the contest with the right phrase at the right time.

                  For example, whenever I think of Douglas-Tyson, I think of Leonard saying, OH, THE UPPERCUT!!" When I think about Foreman-Frazier I, how can you not think of Cosell's DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!!"?

                  At their very best, commentators paint a picture with words, even if you don't have video to go along with the fight. They are the "highlights" on the painting of a great fight.
                  I definetly agree. Lampley has come up with some of the best One-Liners ive ever heard, and it frames a picture in my mind.

                  Like Gatti-Ward: "Gatti risking another low blow penalty, to get Ward off of him" gives me the image of that Gatti body combo late in the fight.

                  And its not ONLY for boxing.

                  Hockey: "DO you believe in miracles YES!"

                  College Football: "He did it, he did it, Flutie did it!"

                  Baseball: "I dont believe... What I just saw."



                  All these Lines make those particular games very easy to recognize because you have that image of the US hockey team celebrating, Doug Flutie jumping around, And Kirk Gibson Pumping his arms.

                  I think a great call does everything in turning a great sports moment, into a legendary one

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                  • Ramamaiden
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                    #29
                    its like when i watch soccer games and the commentators suck. it makes the match less exciting.

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                    • BmoreBrawler
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                      #30
                      well, take Gatti/Baldomir for an example. Excellent, competitive fight on Sky sports(and live in person). Negative, depressing snoozefest on HBO.

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