The Nevada glove rule..

[.::EnRiQuE::.]

the gloves are also bigger in size. so it'll be hard to sneak in sum shots around the elbows and krap

[burglar]

I also wonder if it's not just Nevada trying to **** over boxing as their judges have done so well in the past. Perhaps Nevada sees MMA as the "new trend" and thinks it will overtake boxing in terms of revenue for the State. And bigger gloves on boxers mean less knockouts and less exciting fights,[/B] and the casual fan will just watch MMA to see some poor bastard get his teeth knocked down his throat instead.


Just a possibility, Nevada doesn't exactly have a tradition of upstanding behavior. And you have to weigh all possible angles.

Prior to going over the opinions, the first thing that came to my mind was this scenario...I guess alot of us here has the same thing in mind...

[burglar]

I could be wrong about this, but it seems to me like the new rule could in some cases endanger fighters even more by simply prolonging beatings. On a bit of a side note, I had a friend once who was a pre-med student and he also fought in MMA, he basically swore by the idea that it was safer to fight with the MMA gloves then with boxing gloves as far as long term health was concerned. Ofcourse, being that he was himself an MMA fighter, he may have been a bit biased, and there are clearly risks specific to either type of glove.

I do believe in this also...It is not the impact of a single punch that endanger a boxers..It's the constant, repeated beating to the head during the fight that kills a boxer.I believe that indeed MMA is more safetier than Boxing because the ref can easily determine when the fighter can no longer continue.Like when the fighter has a nasty cut by a single blow.Which usually happens because the hands are not heavily padded. Or when he is immediately knocked out because in MMA, a split second mental lapse in the defense of a fighter can turn a difference in the fight.Unlike in boxing where a fighter can still recover from a power punch because the gloves are padded which lessen the impact. Ergo, the more power punches accumulated, the greater the danger of death. It goes without saying that to add more in the boxing gloves, would necessarily expose the boxer in GREATER harm.

The equation is this; the MORE power punches during the fight recovered from = the more chances of PERMANENT DAMAGES it will cause...

A lot of fights where death occurs, more often than not results from a mismatches, poor conditioning in general (like when the fighter is drained to make the weight) or simply because the ref is not aware that the fighter already accumulated blood cloth in the head. These thing should be adressed first by these so called authorities before messing up with the gloves for it will further aggravate the status of the fighter.Dunno, maybe a poratble xray in the ring, if it is apparent that the fighter is takin too much shots etc... These are the areas of more major concern.That is, if the commisions are serious in improving the sport.....

[burglar]

I hope you guys make your opinions be heard, cause this rule will have a great impact on the sport we all love.... This could either make or brake the future of this art.Imagine all of the hard hitting fighters we truly love will no longer dominate the sport cause of this rule. Imagine that no longer will be there be a debate as to whether a puncher can beat a fighter and so on and so forth. The sweet science may just remain to be that.....just plain sweet science.....

[flem1]

There is no conspiracy or anything, its just that MMA fighters don't get hit in the head as much as the boxers.

[ßringer]

There is no conspiracy or anything, its just that MMA fighters don't get hit in the head as much as the boxers.

They don't get hit in the head as much as a boxer, because their fights only go like 5 rounds. Aside from that I'd say they can still suffer boxing-related conditions such as Parkinson's disease or speech impairment. They may not take as many blows but those elbows and knees make up for that ten fold.

I've seen guys on the guard position just drop 10-12 consecutive elbow shots into the other guy's face and completely knock him out cold.

[Left2body]

They don't get hit in the head as much as a boxer, because their fights only go like 5 rounds. Aside from that I'd say they can still suffer boxing-related conditions such as Parkinson's disease or speech impairment. They may not take as many blows but those elbows and knees make up for that ten fold.

I've seen guys on the guard position just drop 10-12 consecutive elbow shots into the other guy's face and completely knock him out cold.

That was in the earlier days of MMA. Nowadays MMA is paranoid about losing there licensing in Nevada and/or being being portrayed as an unsafe sport (relatively speaking). You'll see MMA fights stopped early more often than not for this very reason i.e. Tito vs Shamrock II. The worst possible publicity for MMA at this point in its developement would be a dead or permanently injured fighter and UFC and other US based MMA recognize that.

You'll see Pride fights go longer because theyre licensing is not as new or precarious as those of UFC and they are already well entrenched into the Asian sports spectrum while UFC has only recently gotten a foothold.

[BmoreBrawler]

Well for those of you that have had the **** kicked out of you in sparring you'll know that you can come close to a black-out even with 16 oz gloves and headgear. The damage comes from the prolonged shaking of the brain, not necessarily getting KO'ed in one hit. This will just make the fights more boring with KO's less frequent, without making much of a difference to health.

Gatti dodged the bullet with the fight in Atlantic City eh?(though it would be better and longer with 10oz gloves for him in particular IMO).

[jai mari078]

I'm against the new Nevada glove regulations. I see and understand both sides of the argument, and I'm especially sympathetic to those in support of it because of guys like Levander Johnson. However I think as a fighter you take that risk for the love of the competition and the love of the sport. I don't think it's going to cut down boxing-related fatalities at all.

As for Oscar/Floyd and Hatton/Castillo.....

Oscar probably won't hit at has as usual with his left hook, Mayweather never had much power to begin with. Floyd could go bare-knuckle and still not hurt Oscar. So I guess it's going to lessen the blows of both fighters.

Hatton/Castillo just plain sucks, those guys are known for power shots and with bigger, more padded gloves I'm not sure how it'll effect the outcome of the fight.

I thought the contract had Oscar and Floyd wearing the Reyes punchers gloves, so wouldn't that be better for Oscars power and worse for Floyds brittle hands? I'm pretty sure that was put in the contract regarding the gloves.

[squealpiggy]

I think the bigger gloves increase the risk also. Concussive blows are the reason for deaths and damage in boxing (exacerbated by dehydration to make weight and fatigue) and this is most apparent in a mismatch. But now instead of a mismatch resulting in a quick and easy KO it will turn out to be a long and prolonged beating, making them if anything more lethal.


But people won't be as bruised.