Can Floyd HURT Oscar and can Oscar HIT Floyd?

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  • wmute
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    #71
    Originally posted by BigCol
    No ****, I hear ya on that last point but Gatti had a bad chin even at 130. He was dropped countless of times. Floyd beat him up but still never dropped him and Gatti never looked wobbly, just incredibly swollen and beat down. Same with Corrales, who is dropped in almost every fight.

    Point is, Floyds self promotion is the only reason why people always say he has pop. I have never really seen him beat down (and I mean really BEAT DOWN) a quality opponent that had a top chin.

    And People also forget that Mayweather was in the 150's if I remember correctly when he fought Gatti. He put on a TON of muscle. Kind of a moot point - but something to think about.
    the reason is that his opponents say so after fighting him

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    • BigCol
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      #72
      Originally posted by wmute
      the reason is that his opponents say so after fighting him
      Oh, how clever of you.

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      • pbftxrs316
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        #73
        Originally posted by BigCol
        What weight did Gatti start out at? 130
        What weight did Corrales start out at? 130 or 135 if I remember correctly.
        that don't mean they weren't naturally bigger than floyd when they fought smart guy. that was what your post said wasn't it? floyd started at 130 if i'm not mistaken. so what? baldomir was bigger than floyd when they fought and he was at welterweight his whole professional career so again i disgree with your logic because you're twisting it up.

        anyway, what does this have to do with him and oscar. i told you people the truth already, size, speed, and power has little to nothing to do with it unless you have the smarts to use it it effectively, and floyd has the smarts and that is going to win him the fight.

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        • BigCol
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          #74
          Originally posted by pbftxrs316
          that don't mean they weren't naturally bigger than floyd when they fought smart guy. that was what your post said wasn't it? floyd started at 130 if i'm not mistaken. so what? baldomir was bigger than floyd when they fought and he was at welterweight his whole professional career so again i disgree with your logic because you're twisting it up.

          anyway, what does this have to do with him and oscar. i told you people the truth already, size, speed, and power has little to nothing to do with it unless you have the smarts to use it it effectively, and floyd has the smarts and that is going to win him the fight.
          The question of the thread was wether or not Floyd could HURT Oscar. I said no, and explained why. Real sorry if I disagree with you, you know people tend to do that from time to time.

          Anyway, I dont feel like arguing with a guy that has 'pbf' in his name.

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          • pbftxrs316
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            #75
            Originally posted by BigCol
            No ****, I hear ya on that last point but Gatti had a bad chin even at 130. He was dropped countless of times. Floyd beat him up but still never dropped him and Gatti never looked wobbly, just incredibly swollen and beat down. Same with Corrales, who is dropped in almost every fight.

            Point is, Floyds self promotion is the only reason why people always say he has pop. I have never really seen him beat down (and I mean really BEAT DOWN) a quality opponent that had a top chin.

            And People also forget that Mayweather was in the 150's if I remember correctly when he fought Gatti. He put on a TON of muscle. Kind of a moot point - but something to think about.
            what do you mean self promotion? it's really simple einstein, after floyd hit his opponents and wins the fights, they give him credit for hittng harder than people think. does he have to hit you for you to realize it to? maybe he does. yes, and maybe gatti never had a chin to you at 130 because he got kncked down a lot but he also bounced back on a few ocassions an dwon his figts so now what? and with floyd, who cares if gatti's face was just swollen. both of his eyes were shut and had buddy mggirt not steeped in floyd most likely woul dhave killed gatti and maybe even killed him too. hahaha i put that twice for some reason.

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            • BigCol
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              #76
              Originally posted by pbftxrs316
              what do you mean self promotion? it's really simple einstein, after floyd hit his opponents and wins the fights, they give him credit for hittng harder than people think. does he have to hit you for you to realize it to? maybe he does. yes, and maybe gatti never had a chin to you at 130 because he got kncked down a lot but he also bounced back on a few ocassions an dwon his figts so now what? and with floyd, who cares if gatti's face was just swollen. both of his eyes were shut and had buddy mggirt not steeped in floyd most likely woul dhave killed gatti and maybe even killed him too. hahaha i put that twice for some reason.

              Self promotion? Like how Mayweather talks about how he is a 'complete fighter' and how he is a great inside fighter. I rarely see this in pocket Floyd that fans always talk about, it is always this fighter fighting on the outside and when on the inside jockeying for position to get BACK OUTSIDE or just simply blocking without throwing. That is what I am referring to when I say self promotion. Another example would be how fans call Roger Mayweather and Floyd Mayweather Sr. the best trainers in the world. Why? Because Floyd says so.

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              • phallus
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                #77
                Originally posted by Deeznuts
                He couldn't take Bhop's punches because Bhop Knocked him out. And.........No I don't think Oscar will get TKO'd by PBF but PB will win.
                that liver shot would have taken almost anybody out... until then dlh was holding his own against a natural light heavyweight

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                • Gio
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                  #78
                  NO and YES

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                  • Addison
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                    #79
                    Some guy I was talking to earlier today thinks Oscar can win a dec.

                    Honestly, I think he can KO Floyd - but that's it.

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                    • niceguy45
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by realheavyhands
                      floyd might not know how hard and fast delahoya hits
                      this is the bottom line of all threads and predictions on dhl vs pbf

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