Jorge Arce dodging Darchinyan?

[cyberthugpatrol]

No need to apologize my friend... You have the right to believe what you wish... As for as the rating system you speak of... subjectivity is something that can never be avoided... Their "rating system" is as valid as yours and mine as it is based soley on one's opinion... And opinions on fighters are usually based on popularity more than actual facts...

[Easy-E]

No need to apologize my friend... You have the right to believe what you wish... As for as the rating system you speak of... subjectivity is something that can never be avoided... Their "rating system" is as valid as yours and mine as it is based soley on one's opinion... And opinions on fighters are usually based on popularity more than actual facts...

Well the thing is, its not based on just one persons opinion, its based on the opinion of all the boxing pugalists who have any involvement in the ring, therefore its much less biased than yours or mine would tend to be.

[Easy-E]

I think I missed the "ownage" in that post charles.
Nice try, though.

[cyberthugpatrol]

Well the thing is, its not based on just one persons opinion, its based on the opinion of all the boxing pugalists who have any involvement in the ring, therefore its much less biased than yours or mine would tend to be.

pugilist ?

Bert Sugar........a pugilist ?

next thing you're going to tell is that the Vegas judges are the greatest judges alive

[cyberthugpatrol]

I think I missed the "ownage" in that post charles.
Nice try, though.

dude, I hate it when my mother calls me "charles" !!!

[Evil Empire]

Well the thing is, its not based on just one persons opinion, its based on the opinion of all the boxing pugalists who have any involvement in the ring, therefore its much less biased than yours or mine would tend to be.

It is based on opinions by people, most of whom just joined the rating system in 2007 which are just going along with what the ring already had as its law... Fighter are now just changed out depending on who wins and how valuable that win is perceived... that is all man.. just another system... not corrupted by money, but still just another subjective system.. if it were truly by the opinions of the many, then the would just wipe the slate clean and start again.. they just kept it as is and are goign to add and remove from thsi point on...

[Easy-E]

It is based on opinions by people, most of whom just joined the rating system in 2007 which are just going along with what the ring already had as its law... Fighter are now just changed out depending on who wins and how valuable that win is perceived... that is all man.. just another system... not corrupted by money, but still just another subjective system.. if it were truly by the opinions of the many, then the would just wipe the slate clean and start again.. they just kept it as is and are goign to add and remove from thsi point on...

obviously one can argue one way or another, but the Ring is a well respected authoratitive rating source.
you cant argue that.
that doesnt mean you cant disagree with it, though.

[Evil Empire]

obviously one can argue one way or another, but the Ring is a well respected authoratitive rating source.
you cant argue that.
that doesnt mean you cant disagree with it, though.

Look.. we have definately fallen way off course... this is now becoming pointless... I say Mijares is world-class and you say he is not... we agree to disagree... let us forget the ring and all other stuff..

[cyberthugpatrol]

Bert Sugar, a pugilist ?

obviously one can argue one way or another, but the Ring is a well respected authoratitive rating source.
you cant argue that.
that doesnt mean you cant disagree with it, though.

[Easy-E]

pugilist ?

Bert Sugar........a pugilist ?

next thing you're going to tell is that the Vegas judges are the greatest judges alive

Carlos Arias
Eric Armit
Nick Charles
Brian Doogan
Coyote Duran
Margaret Goodman, M.D.
Tim Graham
Steve Farhood
Doug Fischer
Jack Hirsch
Michael Hirsley
Keith Idec
Carlos Irusta
Steve Kim
Ted Lerner
Marc Lichtenfeld
Jessi Losado
Scott Mallon
Rich Marotta
David Mayo
Barry McGuigan
Bernard Osuna
Tony Paige
Bob Papa
Vittorio Parisi
Cliff Rold
Rick Scharmberg
Don Steinberg
Joe Tessitore
Paul Upham
Calvin Watkins
John Whistler
Phil Woolever


Actully Bert Sugar has no say in the rating system.
These are the journalists involved, and heres the website http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html

Sorry Charles.