Margarito: "This is a Sport and it is Also a Business"

[LoftyDog]

In as much as I hate Marg for ducking Williams now, this is just a logical move.
He is abandoning his belt for a crack at another belt.

Cotto and Williams are both dangerous fighters, But who's got a bigger name and who's offering more money? So putting the hatred aside who will you fight if you're on Marg's shoe?

After all this is what the guy has been waiting for, for so long. This is a big gamble for Marg because if he loses to Cotto then he ends up with no title, but he is taking risk, so enlighten folks.

What Marg. is doing makes sense, yes. Vacating a title to fight a bigger named champion makes sense. Him not fighting Williams is understandable.

But him doing it after spending how much time complaining that Floyd was doing that **** to him, saying how he is being ducked, and is the most feared man and **** makes it ironic, commical, and hypocritical. I'm not surprised in any of it, thats what he gets for spending so much time bitching.

[PATO 1]

he coulda fought williams back in december or even in march and he wouldnt have had this problem

[gixxer]

williams is a nobody .........i cant wait till marg fights cotto......he deserves it after clawing his way to the top like he did with no fighters giving him a chance to prove himself.....fighters wit a good name

[tito yuca]

Thats funny as hell!!!!! Good post!!! I agree and have said this before. I've never seen someone spend so much of there time hating on someone. I think Tony might have a stalker. I guess Floyd taught Tony something, but I don't consider what Tony is doing to be what Floyd did. I mean it's one thing to do this and take a step back in competition like Floyd did (Baldomir) but Tony is taking a major step up in competition with higher risk fighting Cotto. Cotto is a much better fighter and is way more established than Williams is. he is also the bigger name and will bring more money. I get sick of the Floyd nuthuggers calling this a duck when Tony is stepping up in competition. Yea he's ducking Willaims to fight a more dangerous fighter in Cotto. He is taking on a true welterweight champ in Cotto not a paper champ in Baldomir. Not to disrespect Baldy but he was nothing more than a journeyman who had his fifteen minutes of fame. It would be ****** of Marg to take on Williams instaed of Cotto or even before Cotto and riisk the biggest pay day of his life. Not to mention take on two tough fights back to back. This is a smart move by Tony. You can't compare this to what Floyd di because he is fighting a tougher fighter so get over Floyd nuthuggers. By the way good post once again, before I got on this rant.

First of all, I'd like to say, that even though SiN devotes too much of his time to making topics like this, those who keep pointing this out are just Margarito huggers/Floyd haters that are pissed because what he is saying is true. Second, you say Floyd stepped down in class when he fought Baldomir. Baldomir had just beaten the undisputed welterweight champion Zab Judah and Arturo Gatti. He was an underdog in both fights. Who has Tony beaten again?

And, as much as I love Cotto, between him and Baldy he is the paper champ. He moved up in class and immeadiately got a shot at a vacant title, whereas Baldy beat the undisputed Welterweight champion.

And also, the rumors about the sparring and Williams kicking Tony's ass, and Williams constantly calling out Tony are what makes this such a blatant duck. He says he'll fight anyone, and that he wants to shut Paul Williams up, yet he doesn't fight him. So don't act like this is a business decision, cuz if I were a true fighter, and some punk was talking **** about how he whooped me and it wasn't true, I'd immediately go and kick his ass. After all, it would be easy right?

[Guest]

Thats funny as hell!!!!! Good post!!! I agree and have said this before. I've never seen someone spend so much of there time hating on someone. I think Tony might have a stalker. I guess Floyd taught Tony something, but I don't consider what Tony is doing to be what Floyd did. I mean it's one thing to do this and take a step back in competition like Floyd did (Baldomir) but Tony is taking a major step up in competition with higher risk fighting Cotto. Cotto is a much better fighter and is way more established than Williams is. he is also the bigger name and will bring more money. I get sick of the Floyd nuthuggers calling this a duck when Tony is stepping up in competition. Yea he's ducking Willaims to fight a more dangerous fighter in Cotto. He is taking on a true welterweight champ in Cotto not a paper champ in Baldomir. Not to disrespect Baldy but he was nothing more than a journeyman who had his fifteen minutes of fame. It would be ****** of Marg to take on Williams instaed of Cotto or even before Cotto and riisk the biggest pay day of his life. Not to mention take on two tough fights back to back. This is a smart move by Tony. You can't compare this to what Floyd di because he is fighting a tougher fighter so get over Floyd nuthuggers. By the way good post once again, before I got on this rant.

First of all, Margarito wouldn't look like such a ***** if he had stepped up and fought his mandatory Williams back in December. Instead, he asked for an exemption to fight Clottey and right after the fight said he would fight Williams next because that's his mandatory. He shouldn't have even wasted his time with Clottey and gotten his mandatory out of the way in December, where he would have made a 7 figure payday (which he didn't for fighting Clottey) and still would have had 6-7 months to prepare for Cotto. Margarito didn't turn down Williams for Cotto. He turned down Williams for Clottey. You think Clottey is a bigger fight than Williams, because it was was Williams he was supposed to fight in December. It's a clear duck.

On top of that, Williams supposedly tore up Margarito in sparring. If that wasn't true and Margarito was tearing him up, then why not make the fight? Margarito knows Williams is the real deal.

Also, all of Margarito's losses are to southpaws and he's faced no better southpaw than Paul Williams. It all adds up, but you are too ignorant to see it.

As far as Baldomir being a step down, what makes Margarito better than Baldomir? Baldomir has done more in two fights than Margarito has done his entire career. Baldomir had faced the same level of opposition as Margarito while going undefeated for 10 years. Baldomir fought the same Clottey Margarito fought and at no time during that fight was he dominated as badly as Clottey dominated Margarito in the first 4 rounds. Margarito has shown us nothing that says he's better than Baldomir hands down...

[potatoes]

It looks like Margarito has adopted the saying "If it makes dollars, it makes sense." This is from his interview on Fight News:

So if the WBO goes forward with the mandatory and they allow you time to heal, will you be willing to fight Paul Williams before getting in the ring with Miguel Cotto?

Like I have said before I am willing to fight any fighter. Paul Williams has talked a lot, even through the elbows. Those are first to go down, the ones that talk a lot are the one that fall the hardest. But who is Paul Williams? I don't know how he got to be the #1 mandatory. I don't know who he has beaten, who he has fought to get there, he hasn't fought anybody. But people talk a lot. That I am afraid to fight him. Right now we are trying to take advantage of the title. This is a sport and it is also a business. There has been a lot of talk of a fight with Miguel Cotto. That is the one they have offered for June. I have said that if they really want me to fight Paul Williams and like Paul Williams says that he can beat me and that I don't want to fight him, then put the money on the table. Obviously if they offer me more money to fight Cotto, I'm going to fight Cotto; I want to take advantage of my title. I would definitely fight Cotto or if they say that they are going to offer me more money to fight Paul Williams I would fight Paul Williams. Its not about fear. That's the least of my worries. I have faced better fighters than Paul Williams. I say it again, who is Paul Williams? He got to be the #1 mandatory but I don't know how. We are willing to fight him as long as the money is there.

Margarito is asking who is Paul Williams? Talk about irony...

Mayweather said many of the same things when he was ducking Margarito. The situation is almost identical. There was enough time for Mayweather to fight BOTH Margarito and De La Hoya. There is enough time for Margarito to fight BOTH Williams and Cotto.

[Run]

First of all, Margarito wouldn't look like such a ***** if he had stepped up and fought his mandatory Williams back in December. Instead, he asked for an exemption to fight Clottey and right after the fight said he would fight Williams next because that's his mandatory.

Here you go.....talking the double standard again. Let me remind you for what? The five thousandth time? Arum offered Floyd 8 million dollars for a quick fight against Margarito...which was the biggest payday of his career. He turned that down....and bought out his contract with Arum so that he wouldn't be put in a situation where he had to fight him....lol. Knowing that your hero did that....you still ***** and whine about the same thing except only when the shoe is on the other foot. Let me remind you of the common denominator Jr it's called: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Floyd opted to fight Oscar, and Margarito chose the bigger monetary fish to fry in Cotto.

He shouldn't have even wasted his time with Clottey and gotten his mandatory out of the way in December, where he would have made a 7 figure payday (which he didn't for fighting Clottey) and still would have had 6-7 months to prepare for Cotto.

You're simply underestimating Clottey. He trains as hard as anyone in the sport running 10 miles a day and is always in top shape. That should be common knowledge by know, and this just in if you think Baldomir is such a good fighter.....what about Clottey whipping his ass before the fight was stopped? You're always complaining about how Margarito sucks because he couldn't finish Clottey....what about Baldomir? He's a big win right?

There you go with your double standards again.

Margarito didn't turn down Williams for Cotto. He turned down Williams for Clottey. You think Clottey is a bigger fight than Williams, because it was was Williams he was supposed to fight in December. It's a clear duck.

Clear duck, my ass. Williams is a nobody and once again it's a double standard. You're always dismissing fighters based on the opposition they faced...who was it that Williams beat again?

On top of that, Williams supposedly tore up Margarito in sparring. If that wasn't true and Margarito was tearing him up, then why not make the fight? Margarito knows Williams is the real deal.

That is virtually all hear say. Some say Margarito was knocked down and was getting roughed up by Williams.....some say Margarito knocked Williams out cold with 1 punch. I've never heard anything official and you're acting like it's been filmed and documented.

Also, all of Margarito's losses are to southpaws and he's faced no better southpaw than Paul Williams. It all adds up, but you are too ignorant to see it.

So that would make Williams what? the five thousandth Southpaw that has been ducked in boxing? they make for boring fights end of story.

As far as Baldomir being a step down, what makes Margarito better than Baldomir? Baldomir has done more in two fights than Margarito has done his entire career.

Here you go with the nonsense. Kermit Cintron was a highly respected prospect who was considered in line for stardom. Margarito wrecked him in four rounds genius....on top of that he's wrecked other prospects IE Hercules Kyvelos...as well as beat former Champ Andrew Lewis. What did Baldomir do? He beat a C level club fighter and a guy who was thinking about what he was going to wear in his next rap video.

Baldomir had faced the same level of opposition as Margarito while going undefeated for 10 years. Baldomir fought the same Clottey Margarito fought and at no time during that fight was he dominated as badly as Clottey dominated Margarito in the first 4 rounds. Margarito has shown us nothing that says he's better than Baldomir hands down...

WTF.

Margarito beat Clottey worse than Baldomir did. Baldomir was getting tagged and was losing before it was stopped.....Margarito won every round outside of the first four you idiot.



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[-Antonio-]

Its a good business move, but Cotto is taking on his mandatory...

And stop with the most feared fight bull****. You have a guy calling you out, and you are going to pretend like you dont know him.

[-Antonio-]

Here you go.....talking the double standard again. Let me remind you for what? The five thousandth time? Arum offered Floyd 8 million dollars for a quick fight against Margarito...which was the biggest payday of his career. He turned that down....and bought out his contract with Arum so that he wouldn't be put in a situation where he had to fight him....lol. Knowing that your hero did that....you still ***** and whine about the same thing except only when the shoe is on the other foot. Let me remind you of the common denominator Jr it's called: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Floyd opted to fight Oscar, and Margarito chose the bigger monetary fish to fry in Cotto.



You're simply underestimating Clottey. He trains as hard as anyone in the sport running 10 miles a day and is always in top shape. That should be common knowledge by know, and this just in if you think Baldomir is such a good fighter.....what about Clottey whipping his ass before the fight was stopped? You're always complaining about how Margarito sucks because he couldn't finish Clottey....what about Baldomir? He's a big win right?

There you go with your double standards again.



Clear duck, my ass. Williams is a nobody and once again it's a double standard. You're always dismissing fighters based on the opposition they faced...who was it that Williams beat again?



That is virtually all hear say. Some say Margarito was knocked down and was getting roughed up by Williams.....some say Margarito knocked Williams out cold with 1 punch. I've never heard anything official and you're acting like it's been filmed and documented.



So that would make Williams what? the five thousandth Southpaw that has been ducked in boxing? they make for boring fights end of story.



Here you go with the nonsense. Kermit Cintron was a highly respected prospect who was considered in line for stardom. Margarito wrecked him in four rounds genius....on top of that he's wrecked other prospects IE Hercules Kyvelos...as well as beat former Champ Andrew Lewis. What did Baldomir do? He beat a C level club fighter and a guy who was thinking about what he was going to wear in his next rap video.



WTF.

Margarito beat Clottey worse than Baldomir did. Baldomir was getting tagged and was losing before it was stopped.....Margarito won every round outside of the first four you idiot.

I was about to go off about the irony of the fact that Mayweather did the exact same thing. You beat me to it. Mayweather did exactly what Margarito is doing.

[PRboxingfan]

First of all, Margarito wouldn't look like such a ***** if he had stepped up and fought his mandatory Williams back in December. Instead, he asked for an exemption to fight Clottey and right after the fight said he would fight Williams next because that's his mandatory. He shouldn't have even wasted his time with Clottey and gotten his mandatory out of the way in December, where he would have made a 7 figure payday (which he didn't for fighting Clottey) and still would have had 6-7 months to prepare for Cotto. Margarito didn't turn down Williams for Cotto. He turned down Williams for Clottey. You think Clottey is a bigger fight than Williams, because it was was Williams he was supposed to fight in December. It's a clear duck.

I'm going to have to agree with this. It was what I was going to post. Margarito ducked Williams before he even fought Clottey by deciding to fight an optional defense and then leaving the mandatory for his next fight when he knew that the Cotto fight was next (that's why they were on the same card). I posted this back when he signed to fight Clottey and I knew that the Williams fight was never going to happen.

Now he's turning down $1.2 Million to fight Williams and will probably make about $750K to fight Cotto, if that. Cotto's first Million Dollar fight was against Quintana so I'm sure he'll want at least a million to fight Margarito. This fight is only worth between $1.8M - $2M so you do the math. If Cotto gets what he wants for the fight, and I'm sure he will, then Margo is left with less than 3/4 what he could make fighting Williams, and that is guaranteed money. If Cotto gets injured or loses against Urkal then Margo just threw everything away.

He should just go ahead and fight Williams in May for the $1.2 Million and then fight Cotto in September if he gets past Williams.