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  • Floydmayweather
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    #11
    I Put sweat pea some where near the top 10 all time.

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    • brownpimp88
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      #12
      I remember floyd said in an interview a while back that pernell is the greatest pound for pound fighter of all times. He disses the **** out of ray leonard and praises whitaker, now thats awesome. Well maybe its cuz pernell beat up his trainer, lol.

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      • oldgringo
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        #13
        whitaker is in my top 10 of all time. he also happens to be my favorite fighter ever. i would favor him over any lightweight throughout history at his best, but this doesn't mean he had a "greater" lightweight career than some of those guys.

        a beautiful style matchup would be duran/whitaker at 135. relentless pressure/punching and excellent skill vs. incredible movement/defense and excellent skill.

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        • brownpimp88
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          #14
          his lightweight resume is awesome. He could have fought rosario and gomez, but he beat the guys that beat them, layne and nazario. His legacy from 86-96 will live on forever, we shouldnt remember the **** that he went threw from 97-2001.

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          • oldgringo
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            #15
            Originally posted by brownpimp88
            his lightweight resume is awesome. He could have fought rosario and gomez, but he beat the guys that beat them, layne and nazario. His legacy from 86-96 will live on forever, we shouldnt remember the **** that he went threw from 97-2001.
            drug abuse had already started eating away at his career.

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            • brownpimp88
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              #16
              Originally posted by oldgringo
              drug abuse had already started eating away at his career.
              yo besides duran, who can really have a claim to be a better lightweight than pernell.

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              • oldgringo
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                #17
                Originally posted by brownpimp88
                yo besides duran, who can really have a claim to be a better lightweight than pernell.
                in terms of their career at LW?

                benny leonard, tony canzoneri, henry armstrong, carlos ortiz....some will tell you gans, and ike williams as well.

                whitaker certainly had a great career at lightweight. i wouldn't say he had the greatEST LW career, but in terms of head 2 head matchups with those guys i'd favor him.

                barney ross could have been a damned fine (well was a damned fine) lightweight if he could have controlled his weight.

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                • brownpimp88
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by oldgringo
                  in terms of their career at LW?

                  benny leonard, tony canzoneri, henry armstrong, carlos ortiz....some will tell you gans, and ike williams as well.

                  whitaker certainly had a great career at lightweight. i wouldn't say he had the greatEST LW career, but in terms of head 2 head matchups with those guys i'd favor him.

                  barney ross could have been a damned fine (well was a damned fine) lightweight if he could have controlled his weight.
                  armstrong was more of a welterweight, he only defended his lightweight belt once. The prime whitaker from 87-91 would prolly beat everybody. When he went up to welterweight from 92-97, that was just for fun to see how he does in other weight classes. He showed mental toughness and heart against trinidad, while much bigger guys like vargas and joppy got knocked the **** out.

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                  • wmute
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by brownpimp88
                    armstrong was more of a welterweight, he only defended his lightweight belt once. The prime whitaker from 87-91 would prolly beat everybody. When he went up to welterweight from 92-97, that was just for fun to see how he does in other weight classes. He showed mental toughness and heart against trinidad, while much bigger guys like vargas and joppy got knocked the **** out.
                    brownpimp88, are you kid achilles secret twin or something?

                    he seems obsessed with how all of today's fighters suck ass and even today's top would lose to even the most obscure fighters of the past

                    you seem obsessed with how all of yesterday's fighters suck ass and would suck in today's divisions

                    cant the both of you see that

                    (1) modern training methods took place of the old ones for a reason, modern fighing skills techniques evolved for a reason

                    (2) larger talent pool and having lots of fights DO matter

                    btw, TO ME you seem more objective that he is.

                    although his mayweather sucks threads go unnoticed in the ocean of the similar ones, made by posters who hate on pbf for different reasons. your armstrong sucks thread stands by itself, it is unique

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                    • wmute
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                      #20
                      and yes sweet pea was just awesome

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