Was Mike Tyson a great champion?

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  • j
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    #21
    I personally think Tyson was great because on his best day i think he might have been able to beat any heavyweight boxer ever, including Ali.

    wtf? tyson was good, mostly because of his ko ability. but he wasn't as skilled at boxing as fighters on ali's level. and i'm not the person to say ali was the greatest. i don't believe in that bull****. but ali knew how to handle many different kind of fighters. i'd say ali would likely handle tyson 8 times out of 10.

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    • Mike Tyson77
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      #22
      Originally posted by j
      and tyrell biggs? he fights 15-0 guy for a title defence? at least wait until the guy has 20 fights under him..

      He was a gold medelist.


      Tyson beat ALL the contenders when he was champ, what more can he do? Travel back in Time to search for compition??

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        #23
        Tyson beat ALL the contenders when he was champ, what more can he do? Travel back in Time to search for compition

        while you brought it up, yeah. that's what he should've done!

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          #24
          Originally posted by j
          wtf? tyson was good, mostly because of his ko ability. but he wasn't as skilled at boxing as fighters on ali's level. and i'm not the person to say ali was the greatest. i don't believe in that bull****. but ali knew how to handle many different kind of fighters. i'd say ali would likely handle tyson 8 times out of 10.

          Who do you think was the greatest?

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            #25
            Originally posted by j
            what the hell is wrong with you people?

            there are so many things wrong with what you guys have pointed out i don't know where to start.

            1 - i never called homes a c or d level opponenet.

            2 -

            i agree that he was among the best when he was fighting. there just was not many great fighters around that could test him, especially in his early championship days. my favprite, vitali klitschko, i have to say the same thing about. klitschko is a damn great fighter, but he is not known as a great champ because who is there to really challenge him?

            and don't start saying i hate tyson. i don't mind him at all. i was watching him since 1990. how many of you guys were?

            3 - he fought razor ruddock twice. frank bruno twice. ruddock was fringe b level at best and bruno as well.


            and tyrell biggs? he fights 15-0 guy for a title defence? at least wait until the guy has 20 fights under him.

            i'm not saying that tyson was a bad fighter in his era at all. just didn't think his championship experience was great. he did lose to really every good fighter he has fought.
            your not getting me. what does his domination of ppl you think are low level ppl(you think) have to do with how great he was a champion. so if you saw him dominate in 86 would u say oh that ****** it wasnt great at all.I tell you you would be the only one probably. and if thats the case then Larry Holmes sucks also and rocky maricano and Jack dempsey,Jack johnson. I think its going by there performance as a champ not ppl he fought cause that wouldnt be fair

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              #26
              I think Tyson was great. Was he the greatest is a different question altogether?

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                #27
                your not getting me. what does his domination of ppl you think are low level ppl(you think) have to do with how great he was a champion. so if you saw him dominate in 86 would u say oh that ****** it wasnt great at all.I tell you you would be the only one probably. and if thats the case then Larry Holmes sucks also and rocky maricano and Jack dempsey,Jack johnson. I think its going by there performance as a champ not ppl he fought cause that wouldnt be fair

                ok, well, if you are going by that perspective, i agree. he was good, or great.

                he did dominate a lot of his opponents in such a manor even non boxing fans were drawn to his fights.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by j
                  ok, well, if you are going by that perspective, i agree. he was good, or great.

                  he did dominate a lot of his opponents in such a manor even non boxing fans were drawn to his fights.
                  ahaha. i think thats all the thread was about.

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                  • Tysonisgod
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                    #29
                    tyson's fame and reverence came from the fact that he punched people sensless. really, the truth is he ko'd people who any big puncher should and would've ko'd. easy to look good against c or d level fighters.

                    He ko'd people who any big puncher would ko i'd like to say this is wrong IMO ill give you what i think here before i go to bed

                    Trever Berbick- has only been knocked out twice in his pro life, one of them was to Mike Tyson in two rounds, the other was in his 12 fight i forget who the fighter was...he also fought good punchers like Hasim The Rock, and Larry Holmes and took larry the full 15 rounds...

                    Pinklon Thomas, wasnt a great fighter but didnt have a **** chin, and was never knocked out untill he fought mike tyson

                    Tyrell Biggs... first fight he lost was to tyson, and also first guy to knock him out, after tyson he was never the same..never fought the same

                    Larry Holmes, ok he came out to fight tyson, but still tyson was the only guy to ever knock him out..

                    Tony Tubbs, never ko'd before tyson, and did you see how he went down

                    Michael Spinks-Best night of my life, everyone sayin tyson wasnt the real champ etc etc, tyson does wat no man ever done before knocked this punk out

                    well i'm off to bed, jst wanted to put wat i thot had to be said

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                    • j
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                      #30
                      ahaha. i think thats all the thread was about

                      c'mon man. perception is everything. i mean, were we talking about how great his dominance was compared to other greats, or just how good he was in his particular time? that's what i was a little confused about with some of the points brought up.


                      Who do you think was the greatest?
                      no such thing as "the greatest." it is all relative.

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