NAZ vs PAC

[Mr. Ryan]

Naz was extremely skilful and really light years ahead of the other bantams, super-bantams, feathers and super-feathers.

I wouldn't put Barerra, Morales or Pac in the same bracket.

Unfortunately for the British community, such a statement truly is ludicrous. Barrera never ducked Kennedy McKinney or Marquez. Morales is a three division titlist, as is Pacquiao. Naz strategically vacated belts when the mandatories became difficult assignments.

[eazy_mas]

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Barrera won Nassem win he was too ****y and rich and had the money to quit.

he wasnt hungry and didnt have the Eye of a Tiger thing going on.

but i think Nassem Hamed is too big for Pac he has a longer reach so and akward style that is very hard for any fighter to study and the power that comes with him is nearly a fullpackage in him.

Nassem Style and size would similply hit pac more and more and wont get hit that much

[Mr. Ryan]

Pacman TKO stoppage kate. Who was even close to bring pressure and power like pacman that Naz has fought? Pacs pressure wears people out fast and Nas would not be an exception. Good fight tho.

Exactly, the way to fight Hamed is to pressure him. He liked guys who stood at no-mans land and waited on him. Really, he wasn't that good a fighter in reality cuz his whole thing was to just get his distance and then throw punches. He couldn't create the distance any other way than by running. He didn't jab or anything like that. Just about as one-dimensional a fighter as I've ever seen.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Unfortunately for the British community, such a statement truly is ludicrous. Barrera never ducked Kennedy McKinney or Marquez. Morales is a three division titlist, as is Pacquiao. Naz strategically vacated belts when the mandatories became difficult assignments.

I'm talking one-time ability, not all-time accomplishments.

[Jim_Davis]

What are you talking about everybody knows Hamed wanted Barerra or Morales from about '99 but they were too scared to fight him in case they were humiliated. It was only after he took America by storm they wanted to fight him in case he lost before he reached them meaning they could kiss goodbye to millions of dollars.

[GEOFFHAYES]

What are you talking about everybody knows Hamed wanted Barerra or Morales from about '99

Hamed-Barrera was signed in May '95 for that proposed Wembley Stadium show for July that fell through, there was going to be Hamed-Barrera, Benn-Liles, Eubank-Collins II and Bruno-McCall (AND MIKE TYSON RINGSIDE!) - all the fights were signed but the event fell through.

[Mr. Ryan]

I'm talking one-time ability, not all-time accomplishments.

During this prime you speak of, here is his opponent list:

1995-09-30 125¼ Steve Robinson 125¼ 21-9-1
Rugby Club, Cardiff, Wales W TKO 8 12
~ Time: 1:40 | Referee: Ismael W. Fernandez | Judge: Samuel Viruet 70-62 | Judge: Walter Cavalieri 69-63 | Judge: Paul Thomas 70-62 ~
~ WBO Featherweight Title ~
~Robinson down once in the 5th and 8th~

1995-07-01 122 Juan Polo Perez 120¾ 37-12-2
Royal Albert Hall, Kensington, London, England W KO 2 12
~ Referee: Mickey Vann | Judge: Sergio Silvi | Judge: Daniel Van de Wiele ~
~ WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1995-05-06 122 Enrique Angeles 26-5-0
Bath & West Country Showground, Shepton Mallet, Somerset, England W KO 2 12
~ Referee: Larry O'Connell ~
~ WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1995-03-04 121 Sergio Rafael Liendo 122 42-4-3
Forum, Livingston, Midlothian, Scotland W KO 2 12
~ Referee: Daniel Van de Wiele | Judge: Daniel Van de Wiele ~
~ WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1995-01-21 121 Armando Castro 43-16-3
Scottish Exhibition Centre, Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland W KO 4 12
~ Referee: Mickey Vann ~
~ WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1994-11-19 122 Laureano Ramirez Padilla 17-0-1
National Ice Rink, Cardiff, Wales W TKO 3 12
~ Referee: Mickey Vann | Judge: Daniel Van de Wiele ~
~ WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1994-10-12 121 Freddy Cruz 121 44-6-6
Ponds Forge Arena, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England W TKO 6 12
~ Vacant WBC International Super Bantamweight Title ~

1994-08-17 117 Antonio Picardi 24-10-0
Hillsborough Leisure Centre, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England W TKO 3 12
~ EBU (European) Bantamweight Title ~

1994-05-11 118 Vincenzo Belcastro 28-6-3
Ponds Forge Arena, Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England W UD 12 12
~ 120-107 | 120-109 | 119-110 ~
~ EBU (European) Bantamweight Title ~
~Belcastro down once in the 1st and the 11th~

1994-04-09 122 John Miceli 9-2-2
Leisure Centre, Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England W KO 1 0
1994-01-29 122 Peter Buckley 122 18-29-5
National Ice Rink, Cardiff, Wales W TKO 4 0


Anyone can be great against this competition. Pacquiao has been great against Barrera, Morales, Oscar Larios, Pacquiao is on another plane and level than Hamed.

[Mr. Ryan]

What are you talking about everybody knows Hamed wanted Barerra or Morales from about '99 but they were too scared to fight him in case they were humiliated. It was only after he took America by storm they wanted to fight him in case he lost before he reached them meaning they could kiss goodbye to millions of dollars.

Is this what they tell people in England?

So why did Hamed duck Marquez and Kennedy McKinney?

[eazy_mas]

Is this what they tell people in England?

So why did Hamed duck Marquez and Kennedy McKinney?

what about if it is the other way round?

Marquez didnt fight Pac a rematch so its either pac ducking Marquez or ther other way round.

Hamed that time was more feared fighter than pac he was seemly unbeaten too

[Jim_Davis]