Hopkins not a fighter, just a business man!

[scap]

I don't pay for that lame website, so why don't you tell me exactly what Hopkins said about Roy, Joe, and Maskaev, as well as what Roy's response was.

The latest news has zero to do with Joe or Oleg, just Winky and Roy. These are the two fights it appears Bernard is seriously looking at. (Winky is an acceptable fight, which the winkster insists on 50-50 and to be held at 168-AKA, not happening)

Your boy Roy is really getting pumped to, he wants a 50-50 split(possible because he is still a huge name). saying he would be all over the promotion of this fight which is exactly what boxing fans should be afraid of. (then wants the 4th fight with Tarver)

Can you imagine Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr. selling the absolute **** out of this fight for 4 months call it some gay name like "REDEMPTION" and then 500K people pay $50 to watch a stairing contest, yes you can imagine cant you.

[Super_Lightweight]

No I cannot. I lean more towards it being a decent fight due to them both being more flat footed and the fact that their 1st fight was a fought at a fairly brisk pace. Some people thought it was boring, but I liked it. I appreciate two legends going at it.

If fighting Winky is acceptable, then so is fighting Roy on the grounds that Roy hits harder, is faster still, and is a bigger man than Winky.

Seriously. There's no reason to thinka fight with Winky would be any more exciting than one with Roy. Plus, a fight with Roy would probably make more money.

I disagree that Roy is still a huge name though. I also don't think this fight will be as meaningful as it could have been 3 years ago, but oh well. I am curious to see what happens. Whatever happens, it will surely have an asterisk next to it.

Hopkins and Roy are two old goats and they have earned the right to do this type of thing if they please.

Having said that, I perfectly undertand your frustration with this not being the hardest fight Hopkins could take. Calzaghe or Maskaev would be the hardest fight at this point.


P.S. What weight did Hopkins say he wants to fight Roy at?

[Azteca]

alot of fans just don't understand that boxing is a business. first and foremost. and as long as a fighter does not care about legacy or fan/historical perception and perspective, then he go's and do what is right by his wallet.

boxing is a sport for the fans. fans drive the live and pay per view gates. and fans want their champs to face the best out there. other sports ARE different, but each year the cream rises to the top and the best teams face each other for the right to be called champion.

imagine if team sports were like boxing and the champ wasn't crowned every year and instead once a superbowl title was won, the pittsburgh steelers only opted to play against the houston texans.

professional team sports is a business too. but it does work out where the best does have to face the best or at least the team who my have knocked off the best. sitting on a title and ONLY playing out the risk/reward everytime out is not healthy for the sport.

If you devalue your reign, over the long run, you ultimately are devaluing your asking price of those who pay to see you. or more to the point: those who may very well stay away. legacy translates into dollars. people often forget that.

hopkins is in for the payday with the least risk, simple as. if boxing fans were smart we would boycott this crap.

[Njord777]

1) Bernard did not win his first 20 fights, he actually lost his very hirst prfessional match...ya learn something every day huh.

2) If you read what I write you will find references to the old Bernard Hopkins, the "junkyard dog" as I describe him, at one point in time Hopkins was the definition of a fighter, that time has long since passed.

I know he lost his first fight in a close decision. That doesn't change the fact that he began his career with a 20 win streak, with all the statistics I mentioned. I consider the second fight onward of his career still the beginnings.

[scap]

No I cannot. I lean more towards it being a decent fight due to them both being more flat footed and the fact that their 1st fight was a fought at a fairly brisk pace. Some people thought it was boring, but I liked it. I appreciate two legends going at it.

If fighting Winky is acceptable, then so is fighting Roy on the grounds that Roy hits harder, is faster still, and is a bigger man than Winky.

Seriously. There's no reason to thinka fight with Winky would be any more exciting than one with Roy. Plus, a fight with Roy would probably make more money.

I disagree that Roy is still a huge name though. I also don't think this fight will be as meaningful as it could have been 3 years ago, but oh well. I am curious to see what happens. Whatever happens, it will surely have an asterisk next to it.

Hopkins and Roy are two old goats and they have earned the right to do this type of thing if they please.

Having said that, I perfectly undertand your frustration with this not being the hardest fight Hopkins could take. Calzaghe or Maskaev would be the hardest fight at this point.


P.S. What weight did Hopkins say he wants to fight Roy at?

Lightheavyweight

[Rockin']

Hopkins is most definately a fighter. You have to be a shrewd business man if you want to make it in the game, otherwise you will be eaten and spit out with nothing left in your pockets...........Rockin'

[Kayo]

Hopkins fought the best and took on everyone in his Prime hes ****in 41 he should be able to do whatever the hell he wants. Hes out there fighting for his own pride aka settling the score, stopping someone from beating his record or being a 3-weight champion by fighting O'neil Bell.

[Super_Lightweight]

Lightheavyweight

Erm...that's not good for Roy. It's not horrible, but he makes cruiserweight better. Hopkins gained a lot of steam going up to 175, but it limits Roy a bit. I would rather this fight took place at a catchweight of 185-190.

[Addison]

boxing.talk.com

I knew he didn't want to fight the best when he chose Maskaev (The weakest heavyweight champion), but he IS 42 years of age.. and he doesn't need to fight the best, because he can live off his wins against Tarver, Oscar and Tito.. no matter what the circumstances were.

Agreed.

Agreed.

[psychopath]

The guy may not be the most devastating fighter around but he definitely can fight and win fights.

What do you guys have against Bhops?

He is a fighter and a businesman at the same time.