Hopkins not a fighter, just a business man!

[Super_Lightweight]

Hopkins has only gotten older since Tarver. He may not be 'too old' but it's plenty obvious that he is not even 90% of what he used to be.

Further, no one should dis Hopkins for taking Maskaev. Maskaev is big, can punch, and certainly will not be hurt by Bernard. That is a respectful fight to take and it is a risk. You expect Bernard to take on Klitschko?

Roy Jones will not get ****d by Bernard at any point in time simply because Hops does not throw enough leather these days (like vs Echols) to do something like that.

Furthermore, last I heard, Hops doesn't want Roy but wants Joe or Maskaev.

[K-DOGG]

The sad part about that is that some fighters understand that, yet they still end up brain-damaged and often in financial trouble.

Look at the GOAT, Ray Robinson.

Yeah. There really needs to be a boxing union or something that works towards retirement plans for fighter. They shed their blood for out entertainment....a decent retirement plan is the least that could be done IMO.

Ali's pretty good shape, financially, I think, though.

[ROSEWOOD]

so B-Hop is fight Roy now???

[Kid Achilles]

I'm sure it was that advanced degree in business that beat the **** out of Tarver.

[scap]

Hopkins has only gotten older since Tarver. He may not be 'too old' but it's plenty obvious that he is not even 90% of what he used to be.

Further, no one should dis Hopkins for taking Maskaev. Maskaev is big, can punch, and certainly will not be hurt by Bernard. That is a respectful fight to take and it is a risk. You expect Bernard to take on Klitschko?

Roy Jones will not get ****d by Bernard at any point in time simply because Hops does not throw enough leather these days (like vs Echols) to do something like that.

Furthermore, last I heard, Hops doesn't want Roy but wants Joe or Maskaev.

Last you heard...huh.

b o x i n g t a l k . c o m

[Super_Lightweight]

Last you heard...huh.

b o x i n g t a l k . c o m

I don't pay for that lame website, so why don't you tell me exactly what Hopkins said about Roy, Joe, and Maskaev, as well as what Roy's response was.

[maxorido]

You know how your saying that this fight will attract alot of casual boxing fans? That will end up dissapointed at the borefest and say "boxing sucks!" because they thought that it was gonna be a huge fight? That's EXACTLY how I feel about the upcomming Mayweather and Oscar fight. Mayweather is gonna be on his bike like Lance Armstrong.

[Njord777]

If the point of this thread is to say Bernard Hopkins is not a fighter and only a business man...I'm a bit lost. Are you saying he has never been a fighter?

He started his professional career with a 20 win streak, without a loss, 15 of those by knockout- 11 by first round KO. He became middleweight champion of the world- holding the unified, undisputed championship by whooping Felix Trinidad and then getting the TKO in the 12th despite being a betting underdog.

Hopkins has fought many tough fighters, including Oscar de la Hoya who he knocked out, and capped off his career by becoming a light heavyweight champion.

Yes, at his advanced age Bernard is very much a business man but to say he was not a fighter is..well..dumb. HOF potential. Don't disrespect the man.

[scap]

If the point of this thread is to say Bernard Hopkins is not a fighter and only a business man...I'm a bit lost. Are you saying he has never been a fighter?

He started his professional career with a 20 win streak, without a loss, 15 of those by knockout- 11 by first round KO. He became middleweight champion of the world- holding the unified, undisputed championship by whooping Felix Trinidad and then getting the TKO in the 12th despite being a betting underdog.

Hopkins has fought many tough fighters, including Oscar de la Hoya who he knocked out, and capped off his career by becoming a light heavyweight champion.

Yes, at his advanced age Bernard is very much a business man but to say he was not a fighter is..well..dumb. HOF potential. Don't disrespect the man.

1) Bernard did not win his first 20 fights, he actually lost his very hirst prfessional match...ya learn something every day huh.

2) If you read what I write you will find references to the old Bernard Hopkins, the "junkyard dog" as I describe him, at one point in time Hopkins was the definition of a fighter, that time has long since passed.

[kayjay]

You know how your saying that this fight will attract alot of casual boxing fans? That will end up dissapointed at the borefest and say "boxing sucks!" because they thought that it was gonna be a huge fight? That's EXACTLY how I feel about the upcomming Mayweather and Oscar fight. Mayweather is gonna be on his bike like Lance Armstrong.

The Floyd-Oscar fight has at least the potential to be a great match.

Hopefully Floyd will eventually learn from De La Hoya that it's more important from a business standpoint to entertain than it is to win.