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  • sonofisis
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    #131
    Originally posted by Left2body
    I"m not comparing or would I dare at this point in there career's compare Cotto's resume to PBF's. I was comparing Cotto's resume to PW's resume. I also disagree with you on who is the bigger threat to PBF. I believe Cotto's experience with fast fighters and slick boxers, Quintana, Malignagi, Judah, Mosley........is a much better indication of his threat to PBF than PW's beating Mitchel and Margarito. Williams hasn't faced a PBF type fighter yet and we dont know how he would do against that type of style or handspeed.
    Cotto has absolutely no experience with anybody anything like Floyd Mayweather. My god, why do people act like hand speed is an all encompassing trait and that any two fighters with hand speed are similar? Besides that, there are no similarities between Floyd and these fighters, everyone should have boxing skills. PW neutralizes Floyd much easier with his reach, Jab, and workrate. Cotto would get picked off all night. He can't pressure OR outbox Floyd, I don't see much in Cotto for Floyd, I just don't.

    Atleast with Cotto we know he can handle speed and cut of the ring on boxers. (Please dont say PBF is a different fighter than them, I KNOW, but they are as close to PBF as you can get without actually fighting PBF).
    But they ARE nothing like Floyd, why would you want me to suppress the obvious? PW cut off Mitchell pretty effectively anyways.

    Originally posted by The Troll
    There's nothing there for you to really argue with Isis. I can't help if I think something is off about Floyd, nothing anybody can say will change that.

    It's not a criticism or even his fault, it just seems that way to me.
    Just look at my sig then, that's how I'll argue with what you say can't be argued against.. I respect his opinion a lot more than yours (or almost anybody for that matter).
    Last edited by sonofisis; 12-12-2007, 03:22 PM.

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    • BmoreBrawler
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      #132
      Fact of the matter is, Cotto deserves the shot at mayweather more than Williams. As to who is the bigger threat, Williams probably, but Cotto is a better all around fighter with good power so he has some plusses over Williams when dealing with Mayweather I think.

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      • eric maldonado
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        #133
        Originally posted by sonofisis
        This is what I'm talking about. So much nonsense hyperbole and no matter who Floyd beats they become a bum afterwards no matter how hyped they were before. Hatton isn't a bum now and definitely wasn't on Friday (when he was rated #8 by the Ring). This is just de****able ******ity from desperate fans who need to urgently make some kind of point out there to get a fight that they want to see. It is childish and idiotic and I honestly don't take seriously anyone who would call someone 43-0 and lineal champ of his division, a bum. It is ****ing ludicrous!


        He already has my praise, he is a good fighter. Just in no position for people to compare him to Floyd or act like Floyd owes him his time.

        He wouldn't get past P-dub anyways, and I'd bet whatever.
        first of all i don't hate floyd i think he is the best in the game but i always thought hatton was a bum and i was wishing he would fight paulie so that people can show how overrated he is instead he made a fight with floyd and yes i am happy got knocked out but that doesn't change the fact that hatton aint ****

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        • Left2body
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          #134
          Originally posted by sonofisis
          Cotto has absolutely no experience with anybody anything like Floyd Mayweather. My god, why do people act like hand speed is an all encompassing trait and that any two fighters with hand speed are similar? Besides that, there are no similarities between Floyd and these fighters, everyone should have boxing skills. PW neutralizes Floyd much easier with his reach, Jab, and workrate. Cotto would get picked off all night. He can't pressure OR outbox Floyd, I don't see much in Cotto for Floyd, I just don't.



          But they ARE nothing like Floyd, why would you want me to suppress the obvious? PW cut off Mitchell pretty effectively anyways.



          Just look at my sig then, that's how I'll argue with what you say can't be argued against.. I respect his opinion a lot more than yours.
          THIS IS IN COMPARISON TO PAUL WILLIAMS NOT PBF Cotto has proven throughout his fights that he has been able to handle speedy boxers. If you were bill gates and you were training a boxer and could buy any WW sparring partners in the world you would get Judah, Mosley, Quintana.

          Cotto has proven he is not out of his element against speedy fighters.

          Paul Williams has proven nothing except that he can beat a blown up and over the hill Sharmba and a plodding Margarito who is slow and loops his punches and made Clottey look like RJJ allowing him to land double and triple left hooks(before his hand was injured). How does PW's all of a sudden become a bigger threat than Cotto? Paul Williams is still a variable, lets see him fight some better competition before we call him better than Cotto.

          Like stated earlier. PBF doesn't have to fight anyone and I wont say he is ducking Cotto even if he never fights again. However, if he returns to WW he should fight Cotto.
          Last edited by Left2body; 12-12-2007, 03:32 PM.

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          • AntonTheMeh
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            #135
            Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
            Fact of the matter is, Cotto deserves the shot at mayweather more than Williams. As to who is the bigger threat, Williams probably, but Cotto is a better all around fighter with good power so he has some plusses over Williams when dealing with Mayweather I think.
            hey did you check out the debate?i saw a bit,thompson did a bit of ownage on romney,ron paul looked good in the begining than faded a bit.

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            • sonofisis
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              #136
              Originally posted by Left2body

              Like stated earlier. PBF doesn't have to fight anyone and I wont say he is ducking Cotto even if he never fights again. However, if he returns to WW he should fight Cotto.
              Left2body.. You are one of the most sensible Cotto fans on here and ultimately this is the only thing I've been saying! You've summed up my central point perfectly.

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