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  • Left2body
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    #121
    Originally posted by sonofisis
    The biggest threat to Floyd imho is Paul Williams. Opinions vary.



    I only speak what is relative. I don't downgrade Cotto, he is a good young fighter. But it is just plain disrespectful how he is being hyped at the expense of Floyd's most recent win. It is distracting and fans can't even enjoy the win for no more than a day because we are immediately bombarded with fanatical fans pushing the issue about an irrelevant Miguel Cotto.
    I can understand and respect why you feel that PW might beat PBF due to his physical attributes and work rate but he is FAR less deserving of the opportunity than Cotto who has rightfully earned his position as the #1 WW contender.

    Judah, Mosley, Quintana is better than Mitchel, Margarito

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      #122
      Originally posted by sonofisis
      The biggest threat to Floyd imho is Paul Williams. Opinions vary.



      I only speak what is relative. I don't downgrade Cotto, he is a good young fighter. But it is just plain disrespectful how he is being hyped at the expense of Floyd's most recent win. It is distracting and fans can't even enjoy the win for no more than a day because we are immediately bombarded with fanatical fans pushing the issue about an irrelevant Miguel Cotto.
      floyd beat bum ass hatton everyone knows hatton aint **** thats why people want to see a fight with him and cotto this is not something that just happened overnight people hae wanted to see them fight for atleast a year even after cotto's fight with shane the commentators were saying that they want to see cotto fight floyd

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      • sonofisis
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        #123
        Originally posted by Left2body
        I can understand and respect why you feel that PW might beat PBF due to his physical attributes and work rate but he is FAR less deserving of the opportunity than Cotto who has rightfully earned his position as the #1 WW contender.
        Yes, but I'm merely responding to who you said was more of a "threat", which is imo PW..

        Judah, Mosley, Quintana is better than Mitchel, Margarito
        Quintana is one of those guys who really hasn't done anything to be saying that he's better than anybody and people **** on Floyd beating Judah so much that I don't see how Cotto beating Judah is any different, given that people don't consider Judah a good win (I do), but especially after coming off 2 losses and a suspension.

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          #124
          Cotto is probably my second favorite fighter right now. I dont know how to rate his performance against Mosely. He got the descision but he wasn't really dominant I dont want to say he didn't fight well to detract from Mosely so I just dont know how to rate it. It did suspect when I was watching the fight that he hurt hand or that something was wrong with him but I guess he didn't.

          He's the best welterweight right now unless you want to say and Mayweather and Cotto would definitely have a chance at beating him, the only question is whether he's fast enough and I think he is, He was fast enough for Mosely and Mosely hits alot harder that one of the great things about Cotto is I think you got hurt him to beat him and that would difficult for Floyd to do.

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          • AntonTheMeh
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            #125
            Ok Everybody! All Cotto Needs To Do Is Let The Air Out Of Williams Like A ****ing Giraffe Balloon Animal For Cotto To Get Praise From The Son Of Isis!it's Settled,it'll Be A New Noosphere In Boxingscene When Cotto Chops That Tree Down.
            Is That All He Needs To Do Sonfisis?

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              #126
              Originally posted by eric maldonado
              floyd beat bum ass hatton
              This is what I'm talking about. So much nonsense hyperbole and no matter who Floyd beats they become a bum afterwards no matter how hyped they were before. Hatton isn't a bum now and definitely wasn't on Friday (when he was rated #8 by the Ring). This is just de****able ******ity from desperate fans who need to urgently make some kind of point out there to get a fight that they want to see. It is childish and idiotic and I honestly don't take seriously anyone who would call someone 43-0 and lineal champ of his division, a bum. It is ****ing ludicrous!

              Originally posted by ANTONIM
              Ok Everybody! All Cotto Needs To Do Is Let The Air Out Of Williams Like A ****ing Giraffe Balloon Animal For Cotto To Get Praise From The Son Of Isis!it's Settled,it'll Be A New Noosphere In Boxingscene When Cotto Chops That Tree Down.
              Is That All He Needs To Do Sonfisis?
              He already has my praise, he is a good fighter. Just in no position for people to compare him to Floyd or act like Floyd owes him his time.

              He wouldn't get past P-dub anyways, and I'd bet whatever.

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              • Left2body
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                #127
                Originally posted by sonofisis
                Yes, but I'm merely responding to who you said was more of a "threat", which is imo PW..



                Quintana is one of those guys who really hasn't done anything to be saying that he's better than anybody and people **** on Floyd beating Judah so much that I don't see how Cotto beating Judah is any different, given that people don't consider Judah a good win (I do), but especially after coming off 2 losses and a suspension.
                I"m not comparing or would I dare at this point in there career's compare Cotto's resume to PBF's. I was comparing Cotto's resume to PW's resume. I also disagree with you on who is the bigger threat to PBF. I believe Cotto's experience with fast fighters and slick boxers, Quintana, Malignagi, Judah, Mosley........is a much better indication of his threat to PBF than PW's beating Mitchel and Margarito. Williams hasn't faced a PBF type fighter yet and we dont know how he would do against that type of style or handspeed.

                Atleast with Cotto we know he can handle speed and cut of the ring on boxers. (Please dont say PBF is a different fighter than them, I KNOW, but they are as close to PBF as you can get without actually fighting PBF).

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                  #128
                  There's alot of fighters today like Mayweather where on paper their accomplishments are tremendous but when you watch them fight it just seem that all those accomplishment dont match up to what you watching. I mean Floyd is about as slick and fast as any fighter your going to see and there's no denying he's beaten some very good fighters but I still can't help for thinking that something is off with him.

                  I can admit that maybe it's just his style or something, I dont know what it is.

                  I agree with what Foreman said about him I think pretty much the same as he does. I really liked Floyd earlier in his career at like 130 and such, and it's not like he's really changed his style alot or anything but since then, I dont know what it is. Maybe it's because everybody is always saying how great he is and he just doesn't measure up to that to me, even though he is #1 P4P, something just doesn't sit right.

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                  • sonofisis
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by The Troll
                    There's alot of fighters today like Mayweather where on paper their accomplishments are tremendous
                    Name one, or everything you said after that is useless.

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                    • The Troll
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                      #130
                      There's nothing there for you to really argue with Isis. I can't help if I think something is off about Floyd, nothing anybody can say will change that.

                      It's not a criticism or even his fault, it just seems that way to me.

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