Vivian Harris has some serious credentials

[neils7147933]

I've just been looking over his ledger, check this. Of course, we all were introduced to him when he won the vacant WBA title when he blew out Hurtado in the second on Showtime, but he's been the real deal for a minute. He holds a win over Soulemayne M'Baye, who is the WBA champ now I believe at 140. Also, he has a W over Gary St. Clair, the exiled 130 pound titlist from Australia. He went over to Germany to KO Oktay Urkal and his only really egregiously bad night was the Maussa fight. I think that people are seriously overlooking this guy and he has to be a serious favorite over Lazcano, who looked everything the shot fighter in his last fight on Boxeo De Oro.

I think Harris beats Junior Witter, I think he beats Kendall Holt, and I think he beats Juan Urango. Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales, and Jose Luis Castillo, he'd be there all night with those guys.

He also lost to Ray Oliveira, who couldn't get past Emmanuel Augustus...

[DLT]

Nah Harris pulled out. Hatton would have had no reason to not fight Harris as he'd most likely KO Vivian.

What are you talkin about? Harris was the champ and Hatton had nothing. He wouldnt KO anyone. All Hatton does is use excuses not to fight anyone. He was so happy that Mouse beat Harris because he knows that he can always say that now when anyone ask him about fighting Harris. Well whats his excuse for not fighting Floyd then?

[The Surgeon]

Harris is 1 of those really dangerous fighters who it takes real good fighters to beat, the right is sick! Dont read to much into the Maussa fight, he's way better than that. He has a real shot against any1 at 140 but id pick Hatton, Castillo and reluctantly Witter over him!

[DLT]

He also lost to Ray Oliveira, who couldn't get past Emmanuel Augustus...

Early in his career. I guess that makes Pac Man garbage since he lost to bums and a thousand other fighters for that matter

[Mr. Ryan]

He also lost to Ray Oliveira, who couldn't get past Emmanuel Augustus...

Would you conceed that that version of Oliveira in 2000 (when Harris was only a pro for 2 years and Oliveira had 45 fights) was considerably different from the Oliveira that fought Augustus, or is that completely inconsequential to you?

[Mr. Ryan]

What are you talkin about? Harris was the champ and Hatton had nothing. He wouldnt KO anyone. All Hatton does is use excuses not to fight anyone. He was so happy that Mouse beat Harris because he knows that he can always say that now when anyone ask him about fighting Harris. Well whats his excuse for not fighting Floyd then?

Hatton's excuse for not fighting Mayweather is that he can't beat him.

[Guest]

Be real now. Thats like saying that Vince Phillips can beat everyone because he beat Tszyu. No one thinks Mouse is better then Harris and everyone saw that Harris was killing him but just came out to fast looking for a KO and then ran completely out of gas.

One thing has nothing to do with the other.

I didn't say Maussa would beat everyone just because he beat Harris. What I am saying is you can't rate Harris all that high when he just recently lost to someone of Maussa's caliber. Someone who was dominated by other top fighters. Not only did he lose, he was knocked the **** out...

[!!! Beowulf !!!]

What are you talkin about? Harris was the champ and Hatton had nothing. He wouldnt KO anyone. All Hatton does is use excuses not to fight anyone. He was so happy that Mouse beat Harris because he knows that he can always say that now when anyone ask him about fighting Harris. Well whats his excuse for not fighting Floyd then?

I think you're just a Hatton hater, pure and simple. Hatton's camp offered Harris a large amount to fight him. Harris wouldn't take it and took a far smaller amount of cash to fight someone else, Oktay Urkal I think.

Hatton would rightly be a big favourite in any fight with Harris. I'm not saying Harris wouldn't have a shot, but he would certainly be a big underdog.

[Guest]

How is that running? Harris was the champ and Hatton was making millions over there. Harris already agreed to fight him in Manchester and all your going to give him is scraps when he knows the fight would make a ton of money? He's not ****** and you act like its just him. If thats the case then Hatton is running scared of Floyd for asking for a rediculus amount of money

Who said it was running? I said he turned it down and he wanted a better offer. I don't disagree with Harris at all. If Hatton is going fight in Manchester everytime, he has to make it worth his while for an opponent to come over. Tsyzu would not have fought there and got robbed if it wasn't for the 5 million he made...

[Super_Lightweight]

How do any of you know what was offered truly be anyone? That's what I'd like to know. No one is backing up anything there. Notta one a ya.