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  • The Wire
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    #41
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    Yes, but I'm only talking about non-biased spectators.
    I like Pac mate. He's one of my favourite fighters, certainly more so than JMM. JMM vs Victor Polo or Pac vs Larios? I know which fight was more exciting. The fact is, you're biased towards Pac and can't watch that fight as it really happened, which saw Pac outboxed for nearly every round. Is Pac a better fighter than JMM? Probably. Did the three knockdowns take him off his game plan? Probably. But Marquez won that fight, or AT WORST it was a draw.

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    • SAN D13GO VILLAN
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      #42
      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
      same old speech. everytime you guys run out of ideas it goes back to, "Hey, no man who gets in the ring is a coward"

      we know that, kid, it's been said. but among other boxers, he will look cowardly for this. if I say Adam Morrison sucks, it doesn't mean I really think he sucks at basketball, just that he sucks compared to other basketball players. so chill out with the little warrior tough guy speech, aight?
      It just gets old that everytime I see your post, you allways got something ****** to say about a Mexican fighter! wers all this hate coming from? did you get picked on by Mexicans when you were a little young buck? how would the Game be with out Mexican fighters?

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      • Memorex
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        #43
        Originally posted by DiegoFuego
        Yes, but I'm only talking about non-biased spectators.
        I call it like I see it, the fight could have been scored either way. Marquez did outbox him but he was behind by so much and Pac was winning some rounds later. The fight was really close.

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        • ferocity
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          #44
          Pacquioa runs from Barrera into the hands of his protector Bob Arum!!

          Im not surprised that Pacquioa got himself out of his fight with Barrera by going with Arum. Cause if Barrera beat him, Pacquioa is over and done with.

          Funny how the tables have turned. I will turn them and call Pacquioa, "Chicken Pacquioa!"................signing 2 contracts, bola de pendejo! Con medio asta asta las catchas en enfrentarce con Barrera!

          Pacquioa knew what awaited him in 07 and he goes and signs with a rival promoter instead of looking forward to his fight with Barrera..unbelivable. "Chicken Pacuioa!"

          Barrera has been doing his thing, fighting fight to get confidence back and then fighting a very dangerous opponet in Rocky. Now, Pacquioa instead of waiting for Barrera and not doing anything ****** by signing mulitple contracts he does somthing ******. The only reasoning it sounds like is to get as far away from Barrera as he can. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

          Now we have two top fighters, two fighters feared by Pacquioa, that are one less then pacquioa has to fight now. He plan to go to Bob Arum to protect him from the big bad Mexicans has at end cause him at least some joy. Since now he only has to face one of his fears and not both head on. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

          This will be a great fight, either way. Especially when you think this could be either ones last fight, well maybe Barreras last fight, so he has to give a great performance win or lose. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

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            #45
            Originally posted by Memorex
            I call it like I see it, the fight could have been scored either way. Marquez did outbox him but he was behind by so much and Pac was winning some rounds later. The fight was really close.
            Stever Norwood former Ring editor, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

            Max Kellerman hbo anaylist, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

            Two guys who know boxing very well, got Marquez winning as many of us did.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ferocity
              Stever Norwood former Ring editor, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

              Max Kellerman hbo anaylist, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

              Two guys who know boxing very well, got Marquez winning as many of us did.
              You're preaching to the choir, it was a close fight but I scored for Marquez.

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                #47
                Originally posted by ferocity
                Im not surprised that Pacquioa got himself out of his fight with Barrera by going with Arum. Cause if Barrera beat him, Pacquioa is over and done with.

                Funny how the tables have turned. I will turn them and call Pacquioa, "Chicken Pacquioa!"................signing 2 contracts, bola de pendejo! Con medio asta asta las catchas en enfrentarce con Barrera!

                Pacquioa knew what awaited him in 07 and he goes and signs with a rival promoter instead of looking forward to his fight with Barrera..unbelivable. "Chicken Pacuioa!"

                Barrera has been doing his thing, fighting fight to get confidence back and then fighting a very dangerous opponet in Rocky. Now, Pacquioa instead of waiting for Barrera and not doing anything ****** by signing mulitple contracts he does somthing ******. The only reasoning it sounds like is to get as far away from Barrera as he can. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

                Now we have two top fighters, two fighters feared by Pacquioa, that are one less then pacquioa has to fight now. He plan to go to Bob Arum to protect him from the big bad Mexicans has at end cause him at least some joy. Since now he only has to face one of his fears and not both head on. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

                This will be a great fight, either way. Especially when you think this could be either ones last fight, well maybe Barreras last fight, so he has to give a great performance win or lose. "Chicken Pacquioa!"
                this will be a good match-up."THE BATTLE OF THE CHICKEN GAY"WHO WILL BE THE QUEEN?JMM or MAB?both guys ducking pacman for a long time.i hope this will not be a boring fight.and i know this guys can't beat pacman.i will love to see pacman fight valero or guzman than fighting mab or marquez!coz i know mab and jmm can't beat pac!

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by *AKO PA HA!
                  this will be a good match-up."THE BATTLE OF THE CHICKEN GAY"WHO WILL BE THE QUEEN?JMM or MAB?both guys ducking pacman for a long time.i hope this will not be a boring fight.and i know this guys can't beat pacman.i will love to see pacman fight valero or guzman than fighting mab or marquez!coz i know mab and jmm can't beat pac!
                  wow barrera 1 of the most exciting mexicans of all time gets no respect at all and even gets called a chciken

                  totally disrespectful wish you had the balls to step in the ring an fight battles like barrera did only to get called a chicken

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    Stever Norwood former Ring editor, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

                    Max Kellerman hbo anaylist, said Marquez gave Pacquioa a boxing lesson.

                    Two guys who know boxing very well, got Marquez winning as many of us did.
                    Originally posted by ferocity
                    Im not surprised that Pacquioa got himself out of his fight with Barrera by going with Arum. Cause if Barrera beat him, Pacquioa is over and done with.

                    Funny how the tables have turned. I will turn them and call Pacquioa, "Chicken Pacquioa!"................signing 2 contracts, bola de pendejo! Con medio asta asta las catchas en enfrentarce con Barrera!

                    Pacquioa knew what awaited him in 07 and he goes and signs with a rival promoter instead of looking forward to his fight with Barrera..unbelivable. "Chicken Pacuioa!"

                    Barrera has been doing his thing, fighting fight to get confidence back and then fighting a very dangerous opponet in Rocky. Now, Pacquioa instead of waiting for Barrera and not doing anything ****** by signing mulitple contracts he does somthing ******. The only reasoning it sounds like is to get as far away from Barrera as he can. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

                    Now we have two top fighters, two fighters feared by Pacquioa, that are one less then pacquioa has to fight now. He plan to go to Bob Arum to protect him from the big bad Mexicans has at end cause him at least some joy. Since now he only has to face one of his fears and not both head on. "Chicken Pacquioa!"

                    This will be a great fight, either way. Especially when you think this could be either ones last fight, well maybe Barreras last fight, so he has to give a great performance win or lose. "Chicken Pacquioa!"
                    Larry Merchant had it for Pac in a close decision.

                    Lederman had it for Pac 115-110 for Pac.

                    As u can see, fans, analysts, and media are split.

                    Both of them did not deserve to lose and deserved a draw.

                    The promotional battle between the Golden Boy and Top Rank existed before Pac. As far as Pac is concerned, yes it his fault but don't just look at him. Golden Boy went to Pac even though GBP knew that Pac is with Top Rank(cuz of the EM fight). GBP should already knew this will cause into a court battle. How GBP talk to Pac, we don't know how it went. Same thing with Top Rank, we don't know how Arum dealt with Pac. JMM's purse going from half a million dollars to $30,000 is his fault also. He priced himself out. This are promoters who wants the exciting fighters that will attract the fans to make them money. And they will do anything(honesty or decievingly) to get that fighter.

                    Pacquiao a chicken? Yeah right.

                    Pac dominated MAB and there was a rematch clause. Did MAB use it? No. MAB has been calling Pac for a couple of years now. Remember before Pac-EM 2 last january. MAB called out Pac and wanted to fight him in March. That's 2 months from the Morales fight. Then MAB sign on to fight Jesus Chavez(which was cancelled due to JC's injury).

                    Same thing with JMM, there was a talk of a rematch but who backed out? Not Pac. JMM said the reason is money, that's fine if he thinks he deserve more money because he was the champion. But the promoters didn't think cuz he wasn't a MAB or EM(exciting wise or attracting fans). Even today, when talk of a rematch, most fans and media want Pac vs MAB 2 instead of Pac vs JMM 2.

                    If i want a rematch to happen, its Pac vs JMM, cuz the 1st fight was unfinish. Only a rematch can settle who really is the better fighter between the 2. If Pac wins, he is the better fighter. If JMM wins, he is the better fighter.

                    As far as JMM vs MAB, i would like to see this fight. I would like to see how JMM against a fighter and a boxer in the form of MAB. Some fans also said that JMM is a better technical boxer than MAB, i would like to see how MAB will handle it.

                    I am not hating JMM or MAB. I have no reason 2 hate them. Both are courageous fighter.
                    Last edited by loui_ludwig; 12-24-2006, 02:42 PM.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by loui_ludwig
                      Larry Merchant had it for Pac in a close decision.

                      Lederman had it for Pac 115-110 for Pac.

                      As u can see, fans, analysts, and media are split.

                      Both of them did not deserve to lose and deserved a draw.

                      The promotional battle between the Golden Boy and Top Rank existed before Pac. As far as Pac is concerned, yes it his fault but don't just look at him. Golden Boy went to Pac even though GBP knew that Pac is with Top Rank(cuz of the EM fight). GBP should already knew this will cause into a court battle. How GBP talk to Pac, we don't know how it went. Same thing with Top Rank, we don't know how Arum dealt with Pac. JMM's purse going from half a million dollars to $30,000 is his fault also. He priced himself out. This are promoters who wants the exciting fighters that will attract the fans to make them money. And they will do anything(honesty or decievingly) to get that fighter.

                      Pacquiao a chicken? Yeah right.

                      Pac dominated MAB and there was a rematch clause. Did MAB use it? No. MAB has been calling Pac for a couple of years now. Remember before Pac-EM 2 last january. MAB called out Pac and wanted to fight him in March. That's 2 months from the Morales fight. Then MAB sign on to fight Jesus Chavez(which was cancelled due to JC's injury).

                      Same thing with JMM, there was a talk of a rematch but who backed out? Not Pac. JMM said the reason is money, that's fine if he thinks he deserve more money because he was the champion. But the promoters didn't think cuz he wasn't a MAB or EM(exciting wise or attracting fans). Even today, when talk of a rematch, most fans and media want Pac vs MAB 2 instead of Pac vs JMM 2.

                      If i want a rematch to happen, its Pac vs JMM, cuz the 1st fight was unfinish. Only a rematch can settle who really is the better fighter between the 2. If Pac wins, he is the better fighter. If JMM wins, he is the better fighter.

                      As far as JMM vs MAB, i would like to see this fight. I would like to see how JMM against a fighter and a boxer in the form of MAB. Some fans also said that JMM is a better technical boxer than MAB, i would like to see how MAB will handle it.

                      I am not hating JMM or MAB. I have no reason 2 hate them. Both are courageous fighter.


                      Why should heat be on Marquez for wanting more money against Pacquoa when Pacquioa did the "exact same thing as Marquez did and held out for more money against Morales -third fight."

                      Fact is if somone calls Barrera a chiken -ultimate warriror a chicken lol- then its simple to turn the table on Pacquioa and his fans and call Pacquioa a chicken since he went with Arum knowing what Arums plans were, which didn't include Barrera. Pacquioa is worried he know he loses to Barrera its over, he loses to Marquez its over.

                      Oh, and whats up with Pacquioa accusing Valero of fighting "tricycle drivers" , as i've said "pacquioa to be humbled!" Marquez humbled him for a good while, till he started winning again and now he's talking mad **** about his opponets. If he fights Valero, Valero will humble him.

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