Top three statistical misrepresentations about Hopkins that irk me...

[Guest]

No....It's called bitching, because you're a constant *****.

Where are these constant personal attacks suddenly coming from? You and I were always cool, but all of a sudden you've turned into a guy that

A. Thinks Bozo is a great poster

B. Follows me round NSB making personal attacks.

There's no "bitching" in this thread (and I couldn't give a **** about threads I started in 2004 and 2005, most of which were probably tongue in cheek anyway).

All bull**** threads about Hopkins, and I could simply point to dozens more centered around hating on fighters from the States. It's no secret, but it just gets old.

See, AGAIN, this is just seeing what you WANT to see. My all-time favourite fighter is a certain Muhammad Ali. Active favourites include Toney and (not now, but when he was in his prime) Holyfield. Were these guys born in London then?

It's YOUR bigotry (about me expressing an opinion that you disagree with, being aligned with my location when posting) that places these agendas in the threads, not the other way around.

Either it's making multiple photoshopped images depicting Calzaghe beating Lacy down...or it's making threads about everyone else.

Come on, that's just a JOKE. What, I read "Calzaghe's a Brit f.ag" non stop for over a YEAR on here and I can't have a little fun?

That reminds me, how many threads are you going to make about me now? I'm sure it might total in the thousands. That's what you always do.

Except... NO IT ISN'T. I make ocasional threads about *******s... I didn't think you were one.

1. Make a thread that really isn't funny but you think it is.

In YOUR opinion

3. Grab Howard Eastman or Danny Williams' ballsack

I might say I LIKE them - Danny's a great shag - but have I ever said that EITHER are HOF material? No. So what's the point?

5. Make threads about other posters in the thunderdome.

Which is what it's there for, and doesn't harm you, so what's the beef with that?

What the hell does that mean?

What does it mean? It means I've NEVER made personal attacks on you on this board, and have ALWAYS spoken to you courteously and listened to what you had to say. So do the same for me.

Or if you don't like me, why converse with me?

[THE REAL NINJA]

Did someone just say a few pages back that Joe Calzaghe is a all time great but Hopkins is not ?

[Guest]

Did someone just say a few pages back that Joe Calzaghe is a all time great but Hopkins is not ?

I don't think so.

[oldgringo]

Hagler fought in a better middleweight era overall, though...

I agree with this. I wasn't comparing what era the two fighters fought in or anything like that. I wasn't trying to say that Nard was better than Hagler (he wasn't...I hold Hagler in higher regard). I was simply pointing out the holes in that "Hopkins best wins were against blown up fighters...so he's really not that great" argument. Hell, Hagler even "lost" to one of the blown up fighters he fought...

But yes I agree...the Roldans and Antuofermo's of Haglers day were better than the Echols and Lipseys of Hopkins.

[THE REAL NINJA]

I don't think so.

ok I think Hop is overrated but he's still a great fighter . I'd put him more around 10th or less all time unlike a lot of ppl on here who say top 5.

[oldgringo]

Another thing...

Hopkins may have fought in a weak era, but it's not like he struggled through that weak era. He absolutely DOMINATED every fighter he fought during the prime years of his middlweight reign. I never saw him lose more than 2-3 rounds in a fight...if that. He was never badly hurt or dropped from what I can remember too.

The guy did what he was supposed to do. When people were knocking him for staying in the same weight class and for not taking on bigger opponents, he goes ahead and takes on Taylor (who he didn't HAVE to face I believe) and then goes up and dominates the LHW champ Tarver....and he STILL gets little credit for it.

In terms of his out of ring accomplishments...

The guy respected the sport by ALWAYS showing up to fight in great shape and he never disgraced the sport in any way I can think of. He was a student of the game and continues to give to the sport when he doesn't have to. THE GUY IS ALMOST 42 FOR GOODNESS SAKE.

[MetalVomit]

I can see points 2 and 3, not number 1 though.

[Guest]

I can see points 2 and 3, not number 1 though.

It only really comes into play when people say stuff like "Hagler didn't make twenty defences, so Hopkins must be better than Hagler..."

[El Jesus]

No....It's called bitching, because you're a constant *****.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29215&highlight=bernard+hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29330&highlight=bernard+hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40940&highlight=bernard+hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50848&highlight=bernard+hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37046&highlight=bernard+hopkins

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101010&highlight=bernard+hopkins

All bull**** threads about Hopkins, and I could simply point to dozens more centered around hating on fighters from the States. It's no secret, but it just gets old. Either it's making multiple photoshopped images depicting Calzaghe beating Lacy down...or it's making threads about everyone else.

That reminds me, how many threads are you going to make about me now? I'm sure it might total in the thousands. That's what you always do.

1. Make a thread that really isn't funny but you think it is.

2. Hate on Jeff Lacy

3. Grab Howard Eastman or Danny Williams' ballsack

4. Hate on Roy or Hopkins.

5. Make threads about other posters in the thunderdome.



What the hell does that mean?

there is alot of legitmacy, anorak does tend to make very xenophobic threads bent on proving UK legitimacy over american. its not "in anyones head" its an obvious agenda, and an annoying one.

[Guest]

there is alot of legitmacy, anorak does tend to make very xenophobic threads bent on proving UK legitimacy over american. its not "in anyones head" its an obvious agenda, and an annoying one.

Oh, it's YOU again.

Nah, there's no "agenda", people just look for patterns in stuff that's not there.

This is a largely US-based website. So naturally there'll be out-of-proportion bashing of non-US fighters and overhyping of US ones. OCCASIONALLY I make reference to this. It's really all there is to it. There's NO attempt to place UK fighters over US fighters, NONE WHATSOEVER.

Like I say, most of my favourite fighters (in HISTORY, at least, if not at present) are from America... the only "agenda" is in the eyes of people with agendas of their own.

I just try and start some threads as discussion points, food for thought, etc. But it seems a lot of people don't like hearing an opinion that's not theirs, which is rather strange considering this is a DISCUSSION FORUM. Maybe we should all just agree on everything and never say **** all?



PS. **** off you prick.