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Just making the point.
Guess it goes with the territory.
I'm not - despite assertions to the contrary by those who wish to use detractions and name-calling in place of understanding another's view and discussing it intelligently - a big guy on patriotism or supporting "one's own". I just support who I like.
But it seems to me that every little minor scrap of detail or even fractionally negative (or able to be interpreted as a negative) piece of news about these guys is leapt upon and torn to shreds.
Take the Paler (aka Hatton). I don't much care for him, I want to see him take on someone of a higher profile, I'm not overly keen on his style, and I don't like the way he transgresses some of the rules. (A little hitting and holding, etc.) That's my view on the guy. Obviously if I enter a discussion about him, despite holding these views I usually get some joker clocking my location and going "all you Brits love Hatton, you all think the same, LMAO, pwn" but the view on here's different. Put mildly, while I think the guy is allowed to marginally foul a little too much and is overrated in the P4P rankings (I've got him top 20, not top 7 or wherever he is this week) come on here any day of the week and you'd think the guy was the biggest bum to lace up a pair of gloves combined with Saddam Hussein. He ain't THAT bad.
A lot of leniency on here is given to fighters... I chuckle at the way some of Floyd's fans try to convince the rest of us that his competition since the Castillo fight has been **** hot and he's well deserving of his place in the P4P rankings. (Which is a system taken FAR too seriously anyway, given that it's just a hypothetical transient extrapolation by journalists).
You know, Joe Blow makes some mistakes, but if there was a story on here called "Joe Blow blinks" there'd be people saying he blinked because he's too scared to blink in the states. I wouldn't mind, but until March the US media wouldn't even give the guy a ****ing chance to do anything and he was derided on here as a "Brit f.ag bum". But all of a sudden he's supposed to have had a showcase career on HBO for all these years? You can't have it both ways. I can see the guy's faults, but sometimes there's no perspective. (I also love it when I get told I love Joe because he's from my country, when I don't even come from Wales.
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The Manfredo fight is a showcase fight for HBO and gullible public, it's not a HOF endeavour. It's just there so HBO can sell him to a mass market for a major fight in the summer. But people don't seem to get this incredibly obvious notion, and also no one's mentioning that Manfredo was touted for Roy Jones before the Blow came on the scene.
I ain't saying these guys are perfect - if you read the thread (I mean PROPERLY read it) - you'll see that. But sometimes it seems like the excuses and leniencies afforded others are just way over the top when it comes to not just British fighters but all Europeans who require a little more than switching on HBO to follow their careers.
Guess it goes with the territory.
I'm not - despite assertions to the contrary by those who wish to use detractions and name-calling in place of understanding another's view and discussing it intelligently - a big guy on patriotism or supporting "one's own". I just support who I like.
But it seems to me that every little minor scrap of detail or even fractionally negative (or able to be interpreted as a negative) piece of news about these guys is leapt upon and torn to shreds.
Take the Paler (aka Hatton). I don't much care for him, I want to see him take on someone of a higher profile, I'm not overly keen on his style, and I don't like the way he transgresses some of the rules. (A little hitting and holding, etc.) That's my view on the guy. Obviously if I enter a discussion about him, despite holding these views I usually get some joker clocking my location and going "all you Brits love Hatton, you all think the same, LMAO, pwn" but the view on here's different. Put mildly, while I think the guy is allowed to marginally foul a little too much and is overrated in the P4P rankings (I've got him top 20, not top 7 or wherever he is this week) come on here any day of the week and you'd think the guy was the biggest bum to lace up a pair of gloves combined with Saddam Hussein. He ain't THAT bad.
A lot of leniency on here is given to fighters... I chuckle at the way some of Floyd's fans try to convince the rest of us that his competition since the Castillo fight has been **** hot and he's well deserving of his place in the P4P rankings. (Which is a system taken FAR too seriously anyway, given that it's just a hypothetical transient extrapolation by journalists).
You know, Joe Blow makes some mistakes, but if there was a story on here called "Joe Blow blinks" there'd be people saying he blinked because he's too scared to blink in the states. I wouldn't mind, but until March the US media wouldn't even give the guy a ****ing chance to do anything and he was derided on here as a "Brit f.ag bum". But all of a sudden he's supposed to have had a showcase career on HBO for all these years? You can't have it both ways. I can see the guy's faults, but sometimes there's no perspective. (I also love it when I get told I love Joe because he's from my country, when I don't even come from Wales.
)The Manfredo fight is a showcase fight for HBO and gullible public, it's not a HOF endeavour. It's just there so HBO can sell him to a mass market for a major fight in the summer. But people don't seem to get this incredibly obvious notion, and also no one's mentioning that Manfredo was touted for Roy Jones before the Blow came on the scene.
I ain't saying these guys are perfect - if you read the thread (I mean PROPERLY read it) - you'll see that. But sometimes it seems like the excuses and leniencies afforded others are just way over the top when it comes to not just British fighters but all Europeans who require a little more than switching on HBO to follow their careers.
) but it's not the be all and end all, depending on circumstance.
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