Hamed's power

[ianwigley]

Hamed was much more unorthadox then Khan...and heir personalties are very diff....hamed would generaly be slagging off opponents,comming to the ring being hoisted in the air.....I think Khan is much more reserved. Sometimes I guess confidence can be mistaken for arrogance...there is a huge differance in styles and personalty when it comes to these two. Both over-rated. But not as similar as you suggest. Khans talking up a world title shot next year....is unlikely with Warren I think

Yes.

I get your point, maybe it's me who mistook his confidence for arrogance.

Without being contentious, I really don't think Khan is going anywhere. I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't reckon he's getting much more than Domestic/Euro glory...

We'll see, bud.

Ian

[SquareCircle]

He might have hit hard, but all he hit was over-the-hill fighters and bums. The only fighter Hamed fought who was good and totally in his prime was Marco Antonio Barrera, who gave him a boxing lesson. Youtube has the whole fight in two parts. Watch it and realise how bad Hamed really was. Nothing more than a jumped-up wanker.

Kevin Kelley

[ianwigley]

Kevin Kelley

**** off! Kelley fought no-one good until Hamed, and got beat by anyone good after that. Kelley's pseudo-greatness came after he got it kicked by Hamed. Kelley went down three times in the Hamed scrap, as did Hamed. Couple o' bums scrapping it out together!

Ian

[Left2body]

Hamed was one of the most physically talented boxers to have fought in recent years. His physical talent is undeniable, tremendous speed, reflexes and power.

I dont think his power was over-rated its just that he hits guys from such weird angles that they often didn't expect the punch and didn't see it coming. You know the old saying, "The punch you dont see hurts the most".

Against a prime tough well schooled fighter (Barrera) Hamed wasn't able to land multiple flush shots but if he would've landed as many on Barrera as he did on Machine Gun Kelly then Barrera would've been in trouble too.

Pac, couldn't finish off JMM but we dont question his power, which is undeniable. Take away that first round and Barrera vs Hamed is very similar to Pac vs JMM. However Pac has evolved and now is a much more balanced fighter today than he was when he fought JMM.

Hamed to me is of equal physical talent with Pac being humble enough and discplined enough to know he needed to develope his skills more and not totally rely on his talent.

*PS I hated Hameds antics and was happy as all hell when he lost to Barrera.

[Exige Jr]

I never understood why he gets hated so much. People who have seen more than 3 fights of Naseem Hamed know what he is about. So that disqualifies perhaps 90% of the board. Its the ones that go back and watch his circa 95 fights that realise how much of a special talent he was.

Anyway, to answer the question, he got his power from his technique and from his legs. He didnt have much on top, as George Foreman says, but when it comes to the size of his legs they were similar to that of a middleweight. If you ask his sparring partners and professional opponents they may even tell you the same thing. Barrera himself said Hamed hit harder than Pac and Morales, yet he didnt really take a decent shot other than 2 consecutive over hand rights, straight on the button in their fight. The rest were nothing compared to what Hamed delivered to Kevin Kelley, Augie Sanchez, Tom Johnson, Daniel Molina, Manuel Medina etc etc.

I spoke to Ross from RossBoxing about this and he said he went to go and see Hamed one time when he fought a few years back, and said that the minute you watch him you can just tell he has been trained to tear people apart with his power. He gets his whole weight behind his shots and is a natural in the sense that he knows how to transfer the little weight he has, onto a target and multiply the damage caused by delivering the shots with a lot of speed. Remember also a shot you dont see is the shot that hurt the most, and Hamed's shots were from unusual angles. Like when an opponent is waiting for an jab and they get a lead right, it throws them off. However, instead of a straight right, Hamed skips straight to the lead uppercut, and often it caught opponents off guard.

[ianwigley]

Hamed was one of the most physically talented boxers to have fought in recent years. His physical talent is undeniable, tremendous speed, reflexes and power.

I dont think his power was over-rated its just that he hits guys from such weird angles that they often didn't expect the punch and didn't see it coming. You know the old saying, "The punch you dont see hurts the most".

Against a prime tough well schooled fighter (Barrera) Hamed wasn't able to land multiple flush shots but if he would've landed as many on Barrera as he did on Machine Gun Kelly then Barrera would've been in trouble too.

Pac, couldn't finish off JMM but we dont question his power, which is undeniable. Take away that first round and Barrera vs Hamed is very similar to Pac vs JMM. However Pac has evolved and now is a much more balanced fighter today than he was when he fought JMM.

Hamed to me is of equal physical talent with Pac being humble enough and discplined enough to know he needed to develope his skills more and not totally rely on his talent.

*PS I hated Hameds antics and was happy as all hell when he lost to Barrera.

Great post.

I disagree with you about Pac's physical talent, though I stand by your right to opinionate.

Props

Ian

[ianwigley]

I never understood why he gets hated so much. People who have seen more than 3 fights of Naseem Hamed know what he is about. So that disqualifies perhaps 90% of the board. Its the ones that go back and watch his circa 95 fights that realise how much of a special talent he was.

Anyway, to answer the question, he got his power from his technique and from his legs. He didnt have much on top, as George Foreman says, but when it comes to the size of his legs they were similar to that of a middleweight. If you ask his sparring partners and professional opponents they may even tell you the same thing. Barrera himself said Hamed hit harder than Pac and Morales, yet he didnt really take a decent shot other than 2 consecutive over hand rights, straight on the button in their fight. The rest were nothing compared to what Hamed delivered to Kevin Kelley, Augie Sanchez, Tom Johnson, Daniel Molina, Manuel Medina etc etc.

I spoke to Ross from RossBoxing about this and he said he went to go and see Hamed one time when he fought a few years back, and said that the minute you watch him you can just tell he has been trained to tear people apart with his power. He gets his whole weight behind his shots and is a natural in the sense that he knows how to transfer the little weight he has, onto a target and multiply the damage caused by delivering the shots with a lot of speed. Remember also a shot you dont see is the shot that hurt the most, and Hamed's shots were from unusual angles. Like when an opponent is waiting for an jab and they get a lead right, it throws them off. However, instead of a straight right, Hamed skips straight to the lead uppercut, and often it caught opponents off guard.

Great post. Technically fantastic.

Shame Hamed never got tested by anyone good other than Barrera, though.

Ian

[Left2body]

Great post.

I disagree with you about Pac's physical talent, though I stand by your right to opinionate.

Props

Ian

Thanks, but could you please expand on what you dont agree with Pac's physical talent in what way? Do you think he is more physically talented than Hamed or less so?

[ianwigley]

Thanks, but could you please expand on what you dont agree with Pac's physical talent in what way? Do you think he is more physically talented than Hamed or less so?

Sorry,

I meant to put how I don't agree Hamed is anything close to Pac's physical talent. Hamed was quick and savvy, but about three leagues down from Pac. Pac would have wiped the floor with Hamed. Pac is so much more physically talented than Hamed.

Ian

[SnoopySmurf]

Barrera said Pac didn't hit as hard as Hamed? That's strange....considering that he got his ass planted to the canvas by Pac while Hamed barely touched him. Pac is at 130 now and he's pretty much all muscle.

And the reason why people hate Hamed is coz he's arrogant, he's ****y, he thinks he's handsome, I hated they way he fought Soto - which was a complete joke and more like a wrestling match than a boxing match.