I'm not racist, I just don't like "thug" fighters.

[cortdawg25]

read.

you might learn something.

the FACT is, Adolf Hitler was a genius. murder too, but nonetheless a GENIUS

There is nothing genius about that to me, people respect some of the craziest things to me. And if he was such a genius why did start wars with 2 of the biggest and most powerful countries at the same time. That doesn't sound very smart to me. So I think you might need to GO READ

[americanspirit]

Race was brought up again and again by people calling me racist in the past because I don't Zab Judah, Mayweather, and James Toney. They started it, I responded to it. This post was not out of the blue, but rather a reponse to guys like Gunstar1 who play the race card any chance they can when someone disagrees with them or dislikes their favorite fighters.

You (claim to) have just arrived at this forum so my advice to you is to keep your nose out of things when you don't know what's what and who's who. You (claim that you) haven't been here as long as the rest of us and don't know the history certain posters have with each other.

Honestly, I am just being polite in the 1% chance that you're someone other than Bozo-no_no.

Even if you aren't Bozo, I've decided I don't really like dealing with you. The way you lightly throw racism around (bringing up the peeing monkey icon as some kind of serious racial slur when in fact I've seen it used in numerous threads where race issues were not brought up and it basically just means "piss on you").

I've noticed that the same people who are obsessed with black boxers and athletes are the same people who'd rather keep blacks in the entertainment and sports industry and out of the political office. I've met and argued with them on other forums. These are the people who believe that blacks are better suited for athletics, who have a natural advantage over whites, and who often believe that blacks don't have the intellect to make good leaders. These are people who'd rather not have a black doctor, but would prefer to cheer a black man on in the ring or basketball court.

The fact of the matter is, my political orientation leans to the left, the far left, and if Barack ***** runs for 2008, he has my vote.

So how the **** am I racist for wanting a black man as president of the united states? Tell me that one. Because I don't like James Toney's trash talk and ignorance, and how he plays into stereotypes in this country about black men? Because I don't support an ex-armed drug dealer turned trash talking boxer who ****s on his opponents, the press, and almost everyone else in the sport of boxing? Sorry but I've seen enough young black men portrayed in the media as rude, loud, and belligerent and I'd like to see more who are classy, intelligent and ultimately, powerful. I would love to see America as a place where color doesn't matter and blacks, whites, asians, etc all occupy positions of power and wealth in equal numbers, but James Toney and his negative persona and image sure as **** isn't leading the way to that.

The guy is a ****ty role model, he reinforces bad racial stereotypes, **** him. That's my opinion on him. Great athlete but lousy sport and ambassador for boxing.

As far as I'm concerned James Toney is as viable of a hero or role model as Stone Cold Steve Austin is for someone from the suburbs or the trailer park.

Not someone to emulate.

But you'd rather see more young James Toney's, right? Just angry and pissed off at everyone, completely destructive, nothing constructive to add to the world. Walking around feeling enraged at everything around them all the time. That's your idea of a role model for an inner city youth, right?

Listen, you pompous little twit. Don't tell me who the **** I am.

Come off this BOZO **** and have some ****ing respect. (less than 1%..)

You are obsessed with critisism and people out to get you.

You are not a man.

[cyberthugpatrol]

dude, read your history books.

you have no clue

There is nothing genius about that to me, people respect some of the craziest things to me. And if he was such a genius why did start wars with 2 of the biggest and most powerful countries at the same time. That doesn't sound very smart to me. So I think you might need to GO READ

[cortdawg25]

dude, read your history books.

you have no clue

DUDE READ YOURS, MORE THAN 1 TOO. YOU MIGHT SEE HE WAS INSANE AND BELIEVED WHAT HE WAS SAYING, BUT HE WAS NO GENIUS.

[americanspirit]

Listen, you pompous little twit. Don't tell me who the **** I am.

Come off this BOZO **** and have some ****ing respect. (less than 1%..)

You are obsessed with critisism and people out to get you.

You are not a man.

The problem with kid is that he makes assumptions. Assumptions about the meaning of icons, assumptions about people's identity, assumptions about the basis of another persons argument..

And you resent that 10 or more people have ASSUMED you might be a racist?..

I don't think you are a racist, kid. But it sure pisses you off for some reason...

That's powerful.

Hopefully it's not true; because you are a snakey son-of-a-*****.

[The Surgeon]

Heres my take on this whole thing - JT and Zab r **** hot boxers Who i like and respect. PBF more likely than not has assulted women - not on, but in the ring he's the dogs bollocks! Hitler was a ****ing Minge to the extreme and i hav to say i dont think kid Achilles is a racist.

[cyberthugpatrol]

ok, ok, lets compromise.......lets agree that Hitler was not a genius, and we can also agree that floyd is gay, yeah ?

DUDE READ YOURS, MORE THAN 1 TOO. YOU MIGHT SEE HE WAS INSANE AND BELIEVED WHAT HE WAS SAYING, BUT HE WAS NO GENIUS.

[PBDS]

YEAH, HOPEFULLY YOU DON'T LIKE THE SOPRANO'S OR GOODFELLA'S OR JOHN CENA OR CHUCK ZITO OR OUTLAW BIKER CULTURE OR CLINT EASTWOOD OR SCARFACE AL PACINO BECAUSE:

"YOU DON'T LIKE THAT "THUG" STUFF.."

Tell me again it's not racial.

...How did Clint get into that group? He's no thug, he just sorts out the thugs when **** goes down.

[cortdawg25]

ok, ok, lets compromise.......lets agree that Hitler was not a genius, and we can also agree that floyd is gay, yeah ?

what is up with you and this ***gotry? People who constantly talk gay are usually gay, lol.

[americanspirit]

Race was brought up again and again by people calling me racist in the past because I don't Zab Judah, Mayweather, and James Toney. They started it, I responded to it. This post was not out of the blue, but rather a reponse to guys like Gunstar1 who play the race card any chance they can when someone disagrees with them or dislikes their favorite fighters.

You (claim to) have just arrived at this forum so my advice to you is to keep your nose out of things when you don't know what's what and who's who. You (claim that you) haven't been here as long as the rest of us and don't know the history certain posters have with each other.

Honestly, I am just being polite in the 1% chance that you're someone other than Bozo-no_no.

Even if you aren't Bozo, I've decided I don't really like dealing with you. The way you lightly throw racism around (bringing up the peeing monkey icon as some kind of serious racial slur when in fact I've seen it used in numerous threads where race issues were not brought up and it basically just means "piss on you").

I've noticed that the same people who are obsessed with black boxers and athletes are the same people who'd rather keep blacks in the entertainment and sports industry and out of the political office. I've met and argued with them on other forums. These are the people who believe that blacks are better suited for athletics, who have a natural advantage over whites, and who often believe that blacks don't have the intellect to make good leaders. These are people who'd rather not have a black doctor, but would prefer to cheer a black man on in the ring or basketball court.

The fact of the matter is, my political orientation leans to the left, the far left, and if Barack ***** runs for 2008, he has my vote.

So how the **** am I racist for wanting a black man as president of the united states? Tell me that one. Because I don't like James Toney's trash talk and ignorance, and how he plays into stereotypes in this country about black men? Because I don't support an ex-armed drug dealer turned trash talking boxer who ****s on his opponents, the press, and almost everyone else in the sport of boxing? Sorry but I've seen enough young black men portrayed in the media as rude, loud, and belligerent and I'd like to see more who are classy, intelligent and ultimately, powerful. I would love to see America as a place where color doesn't matter and blacks, whites, asians, etc all occupy positions of power and wealth in equal numbers, but James Toney and his negative persona and image sure as **** isn't leading the way to that.

The guy is a ****ty role model, he reinforces bad racial stereotypes, **** him. That's my opinion on him. Great athlete but lousy sport and ambassador for boxing.

As far as I'm concerned James Toney is as viable of a hero or role model as Stone Cold Steve Austin is for someone from the suburbs or the trailer park.

Not someone to emulate.

But you'd rather see more young James Toney's, right? Just angry and pissed off at everyone, completely destructive, nothing constructive to add to the world. Walking around feeling enraged at everything around them all the time. That's your idea of a role model for an inner city youth, right?

Actually, I think Toney is a moron. Although he's funny, and I agree with you; Toney is one of the exploited ones.

Judah is an embarresment to the whole planet. Anything alive should be embarrassed Judah is alive too.

And I think Floyd is just utterly picked on. I also think nobody would bother Floyd one bit if he was White.. But at the same time I know they don't have issues with him because he's Black. Floyd is a liabilty to himself.