Scoring even rounds?

[Guest]

I know this is frowned upon in Vegas, but I sometimes do this on my own cards for time if I can't decide which boxer edged a round and don't wish to unfairly balance it in one direction. I can always go back later and rewatch the round to make a more decisive judgement later.

I usually score even rounds in situations where there's little being done by either fighter. If, for example, one's pressing forward but not landing anything, and the other's backing up but blocking, and both score about six shots each of equal force, I'll just mark it 10 10. If neither has done anything to really outclass their opponent, then why do they deserve to be ahead by a point for the session, you know what I mean?

It's not something I do frequently, but it's something I do in close sessions where neither man did anything to "lose" the round.


Thoughts? (No flaming - adult discussion only, please)

[Welter_Skelter]

Not only is it a good idea.. But the 10 point must system should be done away with also.. 9-9 rounds happen enough.. I have seen enough negative fights where neiter fighter should get 10 points.. maybe it would wake a few fighters up

[Rudyo]

I usually don't do it.. I think i scored a round in Toney-Peter even but i think that was the last time i have... It seems that Larry Merchant scores every round even.

[Mr. David]

I know this is frowned upon in Vegas, but I sometimes do this on my own cards for time if I can't decide which boxer edged a round and don't wish to unfairly balance it in one direction. I can always go back later and rewatch the round to make a more decisive judgement later.

I usually score even rounds in situations where there's little being done by either fighter. If, for example, one's pressing forward but not landing anything, and the other's backing up but blocking, and both score about six shots each of equal force, I'll just mark it 10 10. If neither has done anything to really outclass their opponent, then why do they deserve to be ahead by a point for the session, you know what I mean?

It's not something I do frequently, but it's something I do in close sessions where neither man did anything to "lose" the round.


Thoughts? (No flaming - adult discussion only, please)

Even rounds are and should be extremely rare - hence why Teddy Atlas' scorecards bother me. When I decide close rounds, though, I make a note to the side, so that I can understand and not cry "robbery" if a judge has it swung a different way by a couple of points.

My father, though, is completely different. If there are rounds where nothing is going on, he doesn't score them 10-10, he jokingly docks them both points for lack of effort.

[LeeMc]

Even rounds

Even rounds are and should be extremely rare - hence why Teddy Atlas' scorecards bother me. When I decide close rounds, though, I make a note to the side, so that I can understand and not cry "robbery" if a judge has it swung a different way by a couple of points.

My father, though, is completely different. If there are rounds where nothing is going on, he doesn't score them 10-10, he jokingly docks them both points for lack of effort.

Even rounds should be encouraged more. If you can not decide who won a round then you shouldn't pick one guy over another.

When I score a fight I add up all the even rounds and see what possible outcomes would happen if these were given to each guy. Like somebody said above this means that I rarely moan that fights have been "fixed" or a guy has been robbed.

For example after Lewis verus Holyfield 1 I had Lewis win by 2 rounds but I also had 2 drawn rounds. So I could accept anything from a draw to a Lewis 4point victory. 2 of the judges saw it within that range so I was only concerned about the judge who had Holyfield win. But a draw was a fair result because those even rounds could have a 114-114 outcome.

[Mr. David]

Even rounds should be encouraged more. If you can not decide who won a round then you shouldn't pick one guy over another.

I agree and disagree with that statement. Yes, even rounds should be encouraged if you can't decide who won a round. But almost all of the time, you should be able to decide who won the round.

[Welter_Skelter]

I agree and disagree with that statement. Yes, even rounds should be encouraged if you can't decide who won a round. But almost all of the time, you should be able to decide who won the round.

Hmmm so lets say Fighter A has thrown 70 punches and landed 12.. Fighter B only threw 27 punches and landed 10.. 7 of which were counters.. To me I cant pick a winner here.. nor could I say that either was an effective ring general.. Fighter A might have been the agressor.. But being busy and NOT effective is not productive in any other area of life and is considered a waste of time and resource.. so why should useless aggression be counted in a boxing ring.. This is a 10/10 round.. and if I had it my way.. that would 9/9 round.. for 100 bucks/quid I want to see more than 20 landed punches in a round

[Dirt E Gomez]

I agree and disagree with that statement. Yes, even rounds should be encouraged if you can't decide who won a round. But almost all of the time, you should be able to decide who won the round.

There is no real "proper" way to score a round though.... that's kinda the problem. That's why judges see it differently despite seeing the same fight. Ring generalship, clean effective punching, yadda yadda yadda... which of these categories outweigh the others? People can use their own interpretations. For that reason I tend to score more rounds even since I would much rather score a round even then unjustly given a fighter a round they really didn't deserver in hindsight. More than anything, in a 10 point must I think the use of even rounds should be done often. Until the scoring system is changed at least.

[The Surgeon]

I know this is frowned upon in Vegas, but I sometimes do this on my own cards for time if I can't decide which boxer edged a round and don't wish to unfairly balance it in one direction. I can always go back later and rewatch the round to make a more decisive judgement later.

I usually score even rounds in situations where there's little being done by either fighter. If, for example, one's pressing forward but not landing anything, and the other's backing up but blocking, and both score about six shots each of equal force, I'll just mark it 10 10. If neither has done anything to really outclass their opponent, then why do they deserve to be ahead by a point for the session, you know what I mean?

It's not something I do frequently, but it's something I do in close sessions where neither man did anything to "lose" the round.


Thoughts? (No flaming - adult discussion only, please)

I agree totally with all of what uve said

[SHB]

Rounds should be won, not decided on the whim of a judge when there is no real difference between the boxers. There should be a lot more drawn rounds than there are currently - anywhere in the world to be fair.