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  • Dirt E Gomez
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    #41
    I agree 100% with Gringo on this one. I've had him drawing or losing in his 3 fights with Winky/B-Hop, but that doesn't even matter. Now he gets a relatively easy shot by fighting a feather fisted Ouma with no defense... who he chooses to hug and run from as opposed to actually standing and throwing.

    Debate the Hopkins/Winky results all you want... but the fact that so much debate exists should tell you something. If you haven't won a single important fight in your career convincingly yet then you've got some issues to take care of. He'll continue to be a decent champ but if Winky decides to take a rematch now I'd wager a good amount on Winky to win an easy UD.... assuming the judges take their head out of their ass and only give Taylor rounds because he throws the harder punches.

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    • wmute
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      #42
      Originally posted by scap
      Lets see here...

      1) Gringo is one of my favorite posters.

      2) Hopkins had two cracks at Taylor and if you are gonna critisize Jermain you cannot forget to throw some at Bernard's feet as well-he fought the same fight twice, how smart is that?

      3) I agree Calzaghe whips Taylor but if everyone is predicting Calzaghe to smash Jermain who do you like between Joe and Bernard? I know styles make fights but lets be real here Joe poses some serious style problems for Bernard "10 punch a round" Hopkins.

      4) Taylor and Bernard are similiar, they both due there best work against Junior middleweights.

      5) The 2 best middleweight Hopkins ever fought...Jones and Taylor...Im sorry I have not always been a hater, I knew who the Junkyard Dog was long before most and he used to be one of my favorite fighters, post Tito he became tighter with his punches then my wife is with the pocket book (my wife is ***ish)...he was absolutely awful too watch post Tito and that is when he became this superstar in the eyes of the fans...Im an old school Hopkins fan, the new Bernard is nothing to get excited about and I refused to sit quietly when he gives mediocre perfromaces and people call those mediocre perfromces defensive art! It was clear after the Eastman fight that whoever decided to let there hands go a bit against NArd was going to have a real shot, forget landing punches Gringo Bernard is so inactive in the squyared circle all you have to do is let your hands go a bit and your gonna be right there come decision time.
      I see your points and I mostly agree, but I would like to add that Hopkins not throwing punches and taking rounds off HAS to be connected with his age. for chrissake the guy is 40!! it is not like he one day decided "i am going to throw a punch every 10 minutes", he just got old.

      as a sidenote, this is why i think whoever picked hop in the taylor rematch was borderline crazy. his problem in the 1st fight was one and only one: not enough activity. sure has hell he wasnt gonna get it back 6 months later.

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      • DiegoFuego
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        #43
        Who cares what a bunch of bitter Hopkins and Wright fans think about Taylor. Be mad at your p4p boys for losing or drawing to this fighter, who is still very green. I mean doesn't that make your boys look downright shameful?

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        • scap
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          #44
          Originally posted by wmute
          I see your points and I mostly agree, but I would like to add that Hopkins not throwing punches and taking rounds off HAS to be connected with his age. for chrissake the guy is 40!! it is not like he one day decided "i am going to throw a punch every 10 minutes", he just got old.

          as a sidenote, this is why i think whoever picked hop in the taylor rematch was borderline crazy. his problem in the 1st fight was one and only one: not enough activity. sure has hell he wasnt gonna get it back 6 months later.
          Agree with the bold my friend, Hopkins wasnt very active against Tarvere either he just got the perfect opponent.

          Calzaghe will throw at least 50-60 punches a round-how does Bernard keep up if he is as you say too old?

          How does he keep up...simple, rematch with Tarver, rumble with Oleg etc...he is a matchmaker now and he knows who to fight and who not to fight!

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          • wmute
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            #45
            Originally posted by scap
            Agree with the bold my friend, Hopkins wasnt very active against Tarvere either he just got the perfect opponent.

            Calzaghe will throw at least 50-60 punches a round-how does Bernard keep up if he is as you say too old?

            How does he keep up...simple, rematch with Tarver, rumble with Oleg etc...he is a matchmaker now and he knows who to fight and who not to fight!
            I would definitely pick calzaghe against this hopkins,

            I might even have picked calzaghe prime for prime, due to the style match up.

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            • Dirt E Gomez
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              #46
              While takling about Hopkins/Calzaghe isn't the thread's intention... I'll bite. Keep in mind Calzaghe can throw 60-70 punches a round against guys like Lacy and Bika because they wont punish him with counters and good defense the way a guy like B-Hop would. I'm not saying Zag wouldn't outthrow B-Hop but he wouldn't be able to have his way with him like he did the likes of Lacy. 2 completely different fighters.

              Just in the way Ouma couldn't throw 100 shots a round against Taylor; Zag couldn't against B-Hop.

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              • gnostic19
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                #47
                Taylor is no natural fighter. He should be playing safety in the Arena League. He's stiff, not fluid and fights like a robot with no soul. And, worst of all, he's BORING.

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