If the "Soviet Union" allowed their boxers to turn Pro, what would it have been like

[!!Captain]

I realize that the thread went a little off the original question but check out this site for all the amateur champs since 1904.

http://www.hickoksports.com/history/boxolymp.shtml

By the way, the Soviet block approved of their boxers to compete in 1950, I believe. All the fighters from "URS" are the Soviet fighters up until the 90's, when all the URS fighters became RUS, UZB, UKR, etc.

What is clear from those results, is that amateurs elite fighters were a lot more diverse, while Cubans kicked pretty much everybody's ass. So, to answer the original question, the professional ranks would be a lot different, US fighters would not be the only force out there for so many years and it would not be such a shock to see a whole bunch of Easter European fighters to become such a force overnight. I'll tell you what though, when Castro's regime ends and Cubans are able to compete on the professional level, we're all in deep ****.

[Abe Attell]

In 2006, people usually seek out wealthy or attractive people to marry. The result is a higher % of the population that is rich and attractive. There are more millionaires than ever now, and I honestly think there are more beautiful people as well. Think of all those gorgeous as **** women you see in magazines that you've never heard of. Go back to the 1950's and try to find THAT MANY girls who were THAT HOT.

We're getting prettier and that's it. This is what our race is evolving into. Even women are more into scrawny but attractive men than physically strong but not so handsome men. I'm not saying all are like that, but it seems to be a growing trend. Look at the build of male movie stars who represent the physical ideal. Effeminate, good looking, and physically unimposing.

If we're evolving, it's not towards stronger or faster but more attractive. We're more petty and image obsessed than ever.

Women are definitely getting better looking...girls body's today are ****ing amazing...there are some girls that don't even workout, yet they have thick, tight, thighs and ass, nice breasts, and a pretty face...not sure if it is the food or if it is the genes that are improving.

For the feminine Male, it is a trend, at least it had better be or America is in deep ****...Rome fell because of the "Pussification", America is going through it now.

[BrooklynBomber]

Women are definitely getting better looking...girls body's today are ****ing amazing...there are some girls that don't even workout, yet they have thick, tight, thighs and ass, nice breasts, and a pretty face...not sure if it is the food or if it is the genes that are improving.

For the feminine Male, it is a trend, at least it had better be or America is in deep ****...Rome fell because of the "Pussification", America is going through it now.

As I said, feminine man is a flavor of the month, as Hulk Hogan would say.
Right now, the Bruce Willis type of guy is coming back as a symbol --- unshaven, middleaged and tough as nails.
And besides, it is only young girls that like feminine boys(well mostly)

[K-DOGG]

As I said, feminine man is a flavor of the month, as Hulk Hogan would say.
Right now, the Bruce Willis type of guy is coming back as a symbol --- unshaven, middleaged and tough as nails.
And besides, it is only young girls that like feminine boys(well mostly)

LOL!!! Don't you know guys like me never go out of style.

[BrooklynBomber]

LOL!!! Don't you know guys like me never go out of style.

True, but sometimes they get overshadowed by the flawor of the month thing.

[Banderivets]

You can not make an elite weightlifter be an elite marathone runner.

This is impossible. The analogy is that you can not make a pull horse into an Arabic race horse.

What I'm implying is that if you have two men of the same boxing weight class they are similar enough already for their genetic differences not to play a major role.

Take a Russian heavyweight, take a Nigerian heavyweight. They have different genetics, but they both have the body of a heavyweight. Hence I am implying that if you take those two and train them the same way their natural genetical advantages/disatvanges by the time they reach the same level of training will be of no significance.

I personaly am not build to run, I'm western Ukrainian. Any type of leg exercise for me results in exponential growth of my thigh muscles. They get quite large and its no way to run when you have thick thighs. I phsysicaly cant help it. My legs simply grow a lot when I take up running and other leg work.


But boxing is really the sport were genetical advantages/disatvanges stop to mater. Sure the African might be faster by "default" on 'average' but the Euro many times will have more strength on 'average'. If you ask me, it's a balance. Besides, once again, these differences are small enough for them not to really affect the weather in the ring.



Another random fact that I heard a while ago, something like over 50% of African-Americans have "white" blood somewhere down the line. Actually I believe the number was more along the lines of 80%. That would explain the relativly light complexion of African Americans in comparison to Africans, neglecting the different environments because Africans living in colder territories, such as Europe even after a few generations still maintan a very dark complexion.


And as been stated previously, race, especialy in boxing, is overrated. And the only reason I believe it made its way into boxing is because of politics and extreme right wing views that society likes to take on once in a while.

[Nautilus]

What I'm implying is that if you have two men of the same boxing weight class they are similar enough already for their genetic differences not to play a major role.

Take a Russian heavyweight, take a Nigerian heavyweight. They have different genetics, but they both have the body of a heavyweight. Hence I am implying that if you take those two and train them the same way their natural genetical advantages/disatvanges by the time they reach the same level of training will be of no significance.

I personaly am not build to run, I'm western Ukrainian. Any type of leg exercise for me results in exponential growth of my thigh muscles. They get quite large and its no way to run when you have thick thighs. I phsysicaly cant help it. My legs simply grow a lot when I take up running and other leg work.


But boxing is really the sport were genetical advantages/disatvanges stop to mater. Sure the African might be faster by "default" on 'average' but the Euro many times will have more strength on 'average'. If you ask me, it's a balance. Besides, once again, these differences are small enough for them not to really affect the weather in the ring.



Another random fact that I heard a while ago, something like over 50% of African-Americans have "white" blood somewhere down the line. Actually I believe the number was more along the lines of 80%. That would explain the relativly light complexion of African Americans in comparison to Africans, neglecting the different environments because Africans living in colder territories, such as Europe even after a few generations still maintan a very dark complexion.


And as been stated previously, race, especialy in boxing, is overrated. And the only reason I believe it made its way into boxing is because of politics and extreme right wing views that society likes to take on once in a while.

I see your point now clearly; I misunderstood what you had meant.

I agree with you completely.