Floyd's PPV Numbers Vs Pac-EM?

**deliveryman** · 11-30-2006, 01:22 AM

I recently pointed that out in another thread and got flamed.

It's funny people hate Floyd so much that they just take on the biggest double-standards I have ever seen. I like to call it the "Mayweather Double-Standard"

Whatever applies to Floyd, apparently doesn't apply to anyone else. And what doesn't apply to Floyd, applies to everyone else. It's a viscious circle.

"ROFL Floyd only sold 325k buys in his latest PPV fighting a complete nobody... he's not a REAL STAR"

"WOW PAC AND EM STAR POWER COMBINED DID 350k buys!! They are the true stars of boxing!"

**Sin City** · 11-30-2006, 01:30 AM

Welterweights should in general pull bigger numbers than lightweights! If a lightweight is making as much PPV buys than a Welterweight...there is something wrong with the Welterweight! lol

**BIGPOPPAPUMP** · 11-30-2006, 01:55 AM

Floyd is just like Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins. He can't sell jack **** on ppv.

The only time Jones was able to sell was when he was in with fighters where people thought he was going to get killed, late in his career, like Ruiz and Tarver. Other than those PPVs he never sold much.

Hopkins was never even able to step foot on PPV until he went up against De La Hoya. Without Oscar, I doubt the two Taylor fights would have made it there.

The only way Mayweather will sell is if he has another bonafide superstar on the other end. Someone like a De La Hoya, Mosley, or Wright.

At the end of the day, Mayweather will never have the star power of a De La Hoya, Tyson or Holyfield. There were selling against nobodies when they were Floyd's age, grabbing numbers that were at least 500+ per ppv.

Sugar Ray Leonard that Floyd likes to take shots at all the time, received more money in some of his early fights, like against Hearns and Duran, than Mayweather makes today. We are talking about well over 25-years ago, 10 million a fight back then was like De La Hoya money now. He got 11 mill to face Hagler in 1987!!! That's 20 years ago.

May 5 will be his test. Even if he wins, and is not impressive in winning, as in running circles around De La Hoya and boxing his way to a decision like he did against Baldomir, people will never buy another Mayweather card again. Can you imagine people starting to boo a De La Hoya fight, against a major opponent? That PPV is going to be 55 bucks a pop at least, that is my biggest fear, that the fight resembles Mayweather-Baldomir.

It really doesnt matter because he plans to retire after May 5, or so he says. If he loses, I think he will and if he wins, maybe he will for a year and returns for Mosley. The fight is his audition to what is going to be a record boxing audience, he has to sell big like Hopkins in order to have a future in ppv.

**GEOFFHAYES** · 11-30-2006, 02:10 AM

The only reason Home Box Office overpaid Jones Jr so much was to try to 'keep up' with Eubank and his SKY deal - but they were wasting their money because Jones Jr was a no-name. Same reason they offered Hamed that deal before anybody knew who he was over there.

Very, very funny stuff.

**JamesMc** · 11-30-2006, 02:10 AM

It's kind of funny how Mayweather fans claim noone knew who Baldomir was after he manhandled judah and gatti, two of the bigger names in the sport.

**GEOFFHAYES** · 11-30-2006, 02:11 AM

Although Hamed did become a much bigger star in the States than Jones Jr, did he not?

**Easy-E** · 11-30-2006, 02:16 AM

Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP

Floyd is just like Roy Jones Jr. and Bernard Hopkins. He can't sell jack **** on ppv.

The only time Jones was able to sell was when he was in with fighters where people thought he was going to get killed, late in his career, like Ruiz and Tarver. Other than those PPVs he never sold much.

Hopkins was never even able to step foot on PPV until he went up against De La Hoya. Without Oscar, I doubt the two Taylor fights would have made it there.

The only way Mayweather will sell is if he has another bonafide superstar on the other end. Someone like a De La Hoya, Mosley, or Wright.

At the end of the day, Mayweather will never have the star power of a De La Hoya, Tyson or Holyfield. There were selling against nobodies when they were Floyd's age, grabbing numbers that were at least 500+ per ppv.

Sugar Ray Leonard that Floyd likes to take shots at all the time, received more money in some of his early fights, like against Hearns and Duran, than Mayweather makes today. We are talking about well over 25-years ago, 10 million a fight back then was like De La Hoya money now. He got 11 mill to face Hagler in 1987!!! That's 20 years ago.

May 5 will be his test. Even if he wins, and is not impressive in winning, as in running circles around De La Hoya and boxing his way to a decision like he did against Baldomir, people will never buy another Mayweather card again. Can you imagine people starting to boo a De La Hoya fight, against a major opponent? That PPV is going to be 55 bucks a pop at least, that is my biggest fear, that the fight resembles Mayweather-Baldomir.

It really doesnt matter because he plans to retire after May 5, or so he says. If he loses, I think he will and if he wins, maybe he will for a year and returns for Mosley. The fight is his audition to what is going to be a record boxing audience, he has to sell big like Hopkins in order to have a future in ppv.

Floyd has already sold good numbers on PPV.
Two of his fights sold more than any Morales v Pac fight.
What are you talking about??

**Easy-E** · 11-30-2006, 02:37 AM

Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES

Although Hamed did become a much bigger star in the States than Jones Jr, did he not?

No.
Not even close.

**GEOFFHAYES** · 11-30-2006, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by PBF34

No.
Not even close.

The PPV buys would suggest otherwise

Floyd's PPV Numbers Vs Pac-EM?