Froch Eyes Calzaghe, After KO of Dodson

[Shanus]

Are you saying Joe's punches are not wide?

They are wide, but he pumps out so many of them at awkward angles.

[kayjay]

Just watched the fight (Anaorak I owe you once again). This guy is exciting but I can't picture him beating the current SMW champs. Maybe it's that I'm just not a fan of the low-guard style.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Most of Joe's hooks are in-tight.

[Franko]

Froch is a talent, not the product of hours and hours of gym work, not the produce of textbook technique or dedication throughout his amateur career, he's just a talent. He's probably no better now that he was three years back (other than strength).

He could jump in with Calzaghe or Kessler right now and it wouldn't suprise if he took them out, just like he could of done years back.

I think you're a bit delusional mate. I'd be very surprised if Froch jumped in with Clazaghe or Kessler and took them out! Especially Calzaghe! If he'd have got in with Calzaghe years back then Calzaghe may have seriously hindered his career before it got started, but that's just theoretical. Basically, the gulf in class and obvious experience would have been too great.
That said, i do think that Froch has huge potential, and has all the artillery necessary. The body shot he landed on Dodson was a quality shot, and although he didn't show much in the 1st round, in the 2nd and 3rd he showed that he's on a completely different level to the likes of Dodson, therfore, he needs to be calling out better fighters.
I disagree with you regarding Froch's progress in the last three years. I think that he has developed, but he is 29 years of age now and has to start thinking of a better class of opponent. Although it may be a little early to face Calzaghe, i don't think that he will never get the opportunity.
I think that it is great that he believes in his ability so much that he would face Calzaghe right away, but he obvioulsy needs to test himself against others first. The likes of Robin Reid, Mario Veit, Lucien Bute, or even Jeff Lacy would be good test's for him and would make a fight against Calzaghe more viable. Let's not forget that Calzaghe will be facing Peter Manfredo and i believe that Froch has similar if not more potential than Manfredo!

[GEOFFHAYES]

[B]I think you're a bit delusional mate. I'd be very surprised if Froch jumped in with Clazaghe or Kessler and took them out! Especially Calzaghe! If he'd have got in with Calzaghe years back then Calzaghe may have seriously hindered his career before it got started, but that's just theoretical. Basically, the gulf in class and obvious experience would have been too great.

Froch is special. He had glittering amateur success without even training - he just boxed for a crack!

And the Magee fight was enough for me, anybody who can produce a right uppercut like that in round 11 of such a hard-fought super-middleweight championship fight is special. His thumb was rattling around inside his glove yet he still dropped Brian chillingly with a perfect shot, and Brian had beaten Jeff Lacy in the amateurs and beat up Robin Reid and was said to be in better shape than ever for 'last chance saloon' against Froch. And one kid McCracken trains says Froch would of beaten Magee on his pro debut!

Anyway, no I wouldn't be suprised. Joe is too square-on, too hittable and Froch is getting stronger by the week, all the while walking around at 165 (even though he looks about 180). Joe is killing himself to make weight, breaking his hand every fight, and too often his heart rules his head. I just wouldn't be suprised.

Kessler? He's never fought anybody.

[Franko]

Froch is special. He had glittering amateur success without even training - he just boxed for a crack!

And the Magee fight was enough for me, anybody who can produce a right uppercut like that in round 11 of such a hard-fought super-middleweight championship fight is special. His thumb was rattling around inside his glove yet he still dropped Brian chillingly with a perfect shot, and Brian had beaten Jeff Lacy in the amateurs and beat up Robin Reid and was said to be in better shape than ever for 'last chance saloon' against Froch. And one kid McCracken trains says Froch would of beaten Magee on his pro debut!

Anyway, no I wouldn't be suprised. Joe is too square-on, too hittable and Froch is getting stronger by the week, all the while walking around at 165 (even though he looks about 180). Joe is killing himself to make weight, breaking his hand every fight, and too often his heart rules his head. I just wouldn't be suprised.

Kessler? He's never fought anybody.

Go and tell Jeff Lacy that Calzaghe is too square-on, or too hittable. The same Jeff Lacy that many had tipped to beat Calzaghe, and yes the same Jeff Lacy that had been beaten by Magee in the amateurs, but you and i both know that the amateurs is a different kettle of fish to the the professional game, and you and i both know that Lacy would knock Magee out in the professional game. Maybe Jeff Lacy was overhyped, but prior to the Calzaghe fight he was the next best thing in America but that counted for nothing when he faced Clazaghe and was made to look ordinary. Time will tell if that is the case.
I agree that maybe Froch could have beaten Magee on his Pro debut because i do believe that he is an extremely talented fighter. But IMO Magee is nothing special and Calzaghe is.
On the subject of Kessler... u state he hasn't fought anybody, in which case how would you rate Froch's opponents?
Kessler has been in with Beyer, Mundine, Lucas, Thobela etc... and last i recall his record was 38-0.
Froch is currently 20-0 i think and has beaten Dodson, Magee etc... and if i'm honest i would rate his chances against Kessler, but it would be a tougher fight than i think you presume.

[kayjay]

While I was watching the Froch-Dodson fight, I could help but wonder to myself whether Froch would not be handily beaten if Dodson were bigger and stronger with a fast and accurate jab, i.e., if Dodson were Kessler.

[pink panther]

get in line Carl

[SHB]

Froch is special. He'd be better served fighting somebody good first before going in with Calzaghe.

Hasn't he been calling out Kessler for a few months now? Maybe he was just sick of the Dane ducking him and went for a bigger fish (that should catch a few)

[hugh grant]

Its funny this talk about Kessler and Froch as if Kessler is is Frochs next opponent. Kessler isnt his next opponent as far as i know? But Froch might be able to beat him. You never know in this sport but it would be a hard fight for Froch.