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  • GunStar
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    #71
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    Guys, you're talking to Bozo here. Bozo, who thinks Peter was better conditioned for Toney just because he threw more punches. No mentioning that they were weaker shots, most of them, some of them little more than downright pawing and slapping at Toney while he was against the ropes. This is a guy who used the most basic logic, throws around blanket statements, and makes more generalizations than anyone else on the forum.

    Wlad was knocked down three times so he was clearly hurt more than Toney ever was according to ol' Bozo here. Nevermind Wlad was fouled more, has worse balance than Toney, and did not use the ropes for support to stay upright. By the way, grapping the ropes is not a legal means to recover from a hard punch, while clinching is (unless you do it excessively). Grabbing the tope rope, or any rope for that matter, to support yourself should initiate an automatic 8 count.

    According to this clown, Peter was more conditioned against Toney because he threw more punches. He does not take note of the types of punches thrown, the effect of Wlad's clinching on Peter's stamina and punch output (can't throw while you're being held) and the fact that Peter was more cautious of Wlad's power than he was of Toney's. To my eyes the Peter who fought Wlad was a bit quicker, and punched with more authority than the one who fought Toney. He was in better shape. The punches that rocked Toney were not even that powerful or swift, they simply landed flush and clean.

    Toney has an awesome chin, better than Wlad's IMO, but let's not get carried away and think he actually took Peter's hardest shots. He took a few shots that were decent because they were clean headshots, but these were not Peter's strongest stuff.

    Bozo learn to use your eyes you ****ing clown. To you a punch is a punch but we all know better.

    I have to hand it to you, you are the forum's resident spin master. You will flame, twist what others say, and do anything else it takes to put your favorite fighters in a better light or just plain win an argument (in your head only, usually the other person just gets sick of dealing with your bitchy attitude). When someone disagrees with you, you result to personal insults and bring up your past history with whomever you're arguing with (and let's face it, you've clashed with many forum members). It's you who are the joke, a ****ing bitchy negative one at that. You are a somewhat intelligent guy, but it's all negated by your lack of any class or respect for others on the internet. You're a crass ******* and I'm getting sick of your bull**** fast. Really fast.
    Hey kid, do we need to debate this **** again??? We argued about the whole stamina **** and you lost.

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    • Kid Achilles
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      #72
      Check out Bozo's number one cheerleader stepping in for him while he's away.

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      • GunStar
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        #73
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        Check out Bozo's number one cheerleader stepping in for him while he's away.
        Why you trying to tell people check someone up, you should check your hating self up first. We argued about this **** 3 days ago and you lost but for some reason you want more.

        BTW I guess you don't know about me and Bozo, we've had some really funny debates in the past!

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        • Knicksman20
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          #74
          Wlad was clearly hurt on 2 of the KD's. The first KD he was hurt. The second I might give to the Vlad fans because he wasn't hurt when he went down. He looked more scared of taking another shot & tried to duck while a punch was thrown. The 3rd KD he was visibly wobbled & hurt but Peter failed to follow up. Toney has a world class chin which I can't say the same from Wlad because it seems everytime someone touches it, he crumbles mentally & doesn't know how to react when he gets hit hard enough.

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          • Kid Achilles
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            #75
            BTW I guess you don't know about me and Bozo, we've had some really funny debates in the past!
            So that's what you kids are calling them these days..."dabates".

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            • GunStar
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              #76
              Originally posted by Kid Achilles
              So that's what you kids are calling them these days..."dabates".
              Who are you calling a kid, judging from your pic, I'm old enough to be your poppa!

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              • Bozo_no no
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                #77
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                Check out Bozo's number one cheerleader stepping in for him while he's away.
                We already talked about the conditioning, and you were made a fool of.

                You spouted just as much ignorance about that as you did here.

                Once again, the weight one comes in at is not telling of their conditioning. You had no point in that thread and left with your tail between your legs.

                In this thread, it's more of the same.

                Peter hurt Wlad several times badly. Much worse than he did Toney, and Wlad's THREE trips to the canvass and falling all over make that clear and obvious.

                I'm glad you're getting sick of me. It just shows you're upset at getting put in your place. You're a goofy looking know nothing who trolls James Toney threads looking to complain.

                I enjoy putting you in your place and using your own ignorance to illustrate what a biased goof you are.

                All the more reason to accept my bet on the Toney Peter rematch, Susan. Had enough time to "think" about it yet?

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                • Knicksman20
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Bozo_no no
                  We already talked about the conditioning, and you were made a fool of.

                  You spouted just as much ignorance about that as you did here.

                  Once again, the weight one comes in at is not telling of their conditioning. You had no point in that thread and left with your tail between your legs.

                  In this thread, it's more of the same.

                  Peter hurt Wlad several times badly. Much worse than he did Toney, and Wlad's THREE trips to the canvass and falling all over make that clear and obvious.

                  I'm glad you're getting sick of me. It just shows you're upset at getting put in your place. You're a goofy looking know nothing who trolls James Toney threads looking to complain.

                  I enjoy putting you in your place and using your own ignorance to illustrate what a biased goof you are.

                  All the more reason to accept my bet on the Toney Peter rematch, Susan. Had enough time to "think" about it yet?
                  DAMN Bozo!!!!!

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                  • !! Mr. Soprano
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by oldgringo
                    lmao....wlad went down, toney did not. wlad was hurt, so was toney. why can't wlad fans process this without spazzing out?

                    the funny thing is, the people in this thread defending wlad point to toney holding the ropes when he was hurt, and COMPLETELY ignore wlad holding on to peter in the same instances. wlad abused the clinch ain that fight (and good for him, it helped him win) but i find it hilarious when people point out maybe two instances of toney holding the ropes when wlad clinched about 30 times to avoid big shots. laughable.
                    If anything, Wlad was scared, never hurt..

                    Reason he was holding on, or going down was more psychological, than physical..

                    Saying he was on ***** street is beyond blind and ******

                    He was not hurt in the fight,.... petrified, definitely. end of story

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                    • Bozo_no no
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by !! Mr. Soprano
                      If anything, Wlad was scared, never hurt..

                      Reason he was holding on, or going down was more psychological, than physical..

                      Saying he was on ***** street is beyond blind and ******

                      He was not hurt in the fight,.... petrified, definitely. end of story


                      Just read that over. WOW.

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