James Toney

[Bozo_no no]

oh please. yea,,,he had no legs yet miraculously was able to last the distance let alone rock peter and make him do the judah dance in the last round. he never looked seriously hurt and those knockdowns were fouls plain and simple. peter was out of shape and 10+ lbs heavier against toney and didnt land those fouls yet still managed to rock toney and had him holding the ropes to keep himself from going down. I know toney;s your hero and all but call it as it is and quit making a fool of yourself

You're outright delusional.

You have your head so far up Wlad's ass it's full of ****.

Wlad was hurt badly for the majority of the 5th round and you know it. He was hurt, and had no legs under him. He only recovered because Peter couldn't follow up.

The remote suggestion Toney was hurt as badly as Wlad was vs Peter makes you clowns look even more ****** than usual.

That's a ****ing joke. Wlad was hurt several times and flailing all over the ring with no legs. He was dropped 3 times.

You're a joke, and you have no idea what you're talking about.

[beez721]

You're outright delusional.

You have your head so far up Wlad's ass it's effecting your head.

Wlad was hurt badly for the majority of the 5th round and you know it. He was hurt, and had no legs under him. He only recovered because Peter couldn't follow up.

The remote suggestion Toney was hurt as badly as Wlad was vs Peter makes you clowns look even more ****** than usual.

That's a ****ing joke. Wlad was hurt several times and flailing all over the ring with no legs. He was dropped 3 times.

You're a joke, and you have no idea what you're talking about.

dude,,,,take your biased blinders off and watch both fights. its not difficult to comprehend and lets not resort to perversion. that gets old after a while champ

[Bozo_no no]

dude,,,,take your biased blinders off and watch both fights. its not difficult to comprehend and lets not resort to perversion. that gets old after a while champ

Do you have any idea how funny that is coming from you with how out right deluded and imaginary your take on the subject is?

Peter lands on Toney, Toney takes it, and fires back without clinching.

Peter lands on Wlad, and Wlads legs go, he falls all over and has the look of a deer caught in headlights.

Toney gets hit in the same spot, doesn't go down.

Wlad eats the same shots and is dropped 3 times.

You're a ****ing twit, and you're so delusional because of how hard you hug nuts that you're not capable of talking about something in reality.

You're honestly a complete joke.

[beez721]

Do you have any idea how funny that is coming from you with how out right deluded and imaginary your take on the subject is?

Peter lands on Toney, Toney takes it, and fires back without clinching.

Peter lands on Wlad, and Wlads legs go, he falls all over and has the look of a deer caught in headlights.

Toney gets hit in the same spot, doesn't go down.

Wlad eats the same shots and is dropped 3 times.

You're a ****ing twit, and you're so delusional because of how hard you hug nuts that you're not capable of talking about something in reality.

You're honestly a complete joke.

my venting just a little are we? re read your post and see who the delusional nut hugger is pervert. those first 2 knockdowns were clearly push type shots to the back of the head when wlad was off balance with the exception of the 10th round when he went into the ropes from a clean shot. his legs never looked wobbly at all. if he had no legs he sure as hell wouldnt have had enough to wobble peter in that last round let alone finish the fight. use your friggin brain for once instead of your ass. against toney,, peter was 10+ lbs heavier and noticeably slower and he wasnt putting as much into his shots becuase he knew how good a defensive fighter toney is yet he still manged to hurt toney badly and had him holding the ropes to avoid going down. toney never felt peter's full power and didnt get hit off balance and behind the head like wlad,,but yes he gave peter a great fight and many thought he should have got the nod in a close fight.
now go on with your old "nut hugger" "hurt girl act" blah blah routine or go ahead and iggy me like you love to do when you get put in your place. Im through trying to get into your peanut brain. so go ahead and rattle on all night to yourself as usual. good night champ

[Bozo_no no]

my venting just a little are we? re read your post and see who the delusional nut hugger is pervert. those first 2 knockdowns were clearly push type shots to the back of the head when wlad was off balance with the exception of the 10th round when he went into the ropes from a clean shot. his legs never looked wobbly at all. if he had no legs he sure as hell wouldnt have had enough to wobble peter in that last round let alone finish the fight. use your friggin brain for once instead of your ass. against toney,, peter was 10+ lbs heavier and noticeably slower and he wasnt putting as much into his shots becuase he knew how good a defensive fighter toney is yet he still manged to hurt toney badly and had him holding the ropes to avoid going down. toney never felt peter's full power and didnt get hit off balance and behind the head like wlad,,but yes he gave peter a great fight and many thought he should have got the nod in a close fight.
now go on with your old "nut hugger" "hurt girl act" blah blah routine or go ahead and iggy me like you love to do when you get put in your place. Im through trying to get into your peanut brain. so go ahead and rattle on all night to yourself as usual. good night champ

You're a compelte ****ing fool, and the only one who's venting, because everything you just typed is from staight out of your ass.

Wlad was hurt badly in that 5th round and had no legs as a result. You and the other nut huggers continue to cry about the shots to the back of the head because you're still upset about it.

He was hurt, lost his legs, and fell all over.

It happened again when he was hurt later in the fight.

You're a complete joke for suggesting otherwise, and have no point, only tears.

Peter hurt Wlad much worse than Toney, and everyone knows it. That upsets you and you scramble to make up the worst bull **** nonsense to try and make yourslef feel better.

Wlad was hurt badly by Peter, and was dropped several times. It made him turn into John Ruiz. Accept it and stop crying about it.

[oldgringo]

lmao....wlad went down, toney did not. wlad was hurt, so was toney. why can't wlad fans process this without spazzing out?

the funny thing is, the people in this thread defending wlad point to toney holding the ropes when he was hurt, and COMPLETELY ignore wlad holding on to peter in the same instances. wlad abused the clinch ain that fight (and good for him, it helped him win) but i find it hilarious when people point out maybe two instances of toney holding the ropes when wlad clinched about 30 times to avoid big shots. laughable.

[LondonRingRules]

lmao....wlad went down, toney did not. wlad was hurt, so was toney. why can't wlad fans process this without spazzing out?

the funny thing is, the people in this thread defending wlad point to toney holding the ropes when he was hurt, and COMPLETELY ignore wlad holding on to peter in the same instances. wlad abused the clinch ain that fight (and good for him, it helped him win) but i find it hilarious when people point out maybe two instances of toney holding the ropes when wlad clinched about 30 times to avoid big shots. laughable.

** Toney held the ropes to keep himself up. Nothing wrong with that since Toney lives on the ropes, gets his chicken buckets delivered to him on the ropes, does his nails on the ropes, ect.

Wlad has a different style in case you don't notice. Probably Wlad was hurt a bit more than Toney, but he faced a faster, better conditioned, more confident destroyer than the one Toney faced. Wlad's style leaves him open to those wide lunging hooks Peter throws which often land on the back of an opponent's head. Peter has had points deducted for that and hitting a downed fighter in the past, and likely will be DQed at some point in the future when the promoters don't need him so badly. I like Peter's fighting spirit, but he's a dumb warrior in the ring with no ring generalship.

Toney will probably be KOed by Peter in the rematch. Toney's punchdrunk and Peter will have adapted to his junk style and won't have to worry about Toney's weak sister Geoff offense. Peter will just tee off and fatboy will be knocked colder than a quivering bowl of jelly fresh out of the fridge.

[RyanSpaulding]

What's so difficult to admit that Toney has a better chin than Wlad?

Toney probably has the best chin in all of boxing over the last decade. He's a middleweight who won't go down from even the heaviest handed heavyweights.

[Kid Achilles]

Guys, you're talking to Bozo here. Bozo, who thinks Peter was better conditioned for Toney just because he threw more punches. No mentioning that they were weaker shots, most of them, some of them little more than downright pawing and slapping at Toney while he was against the ropes. This is a guy who used the most basic logic, throws around blanket statements, and makes more generalizations than anyone else on the forum.

Wlad was knocked down three times so he was clearly hurt more than Toney ever was according to ol' Bozo here. Nevermind Wlad was fouled more, has worse balance than Toney, and did not use the ropes for support to stay upright. By the way, grapping the ropes is not a legal means to recover from a hard punch, while clinching is (unless you do it excessively). Grabbing the tope rope, or any rope for that matter, to support yourself should initiate an automatic 8 count.

According to this clown, Peter was more conditioned against Toney because he threw more punches. He does not take note of the types of punches thrown, the effect of Wlad's clinching on Peter's stamina and punch output (can't throw while you're being held) and the fact that Peter was more cautious of Wlad's power than he was of Toney's. To my eyes the Peter who fought Wlad was a bit quicker, and punched with more authority than the one who fought Toney. He was in better shape. The punches that rocked Toney were not even that powerful or swift, they simply landed flush and clean.

Toney has an awesome chin, better than Wlad's IMO, but let's not get carried away and think he actually took Peter's hardest shots. He took a few shots that were decent because they were clean headshots, but these were not Peter's strongest stuff.

Bozo learn to use your eyes you ****ing clown. To you a punch is a punch but we all know better.

I have to hand it to you, you are the forum's resident spin master. You will flame, twist what others say, and do anything else it takes to put your favorite fighters in a better light or just plain win an argument (in your head only, usually the other person just gets sick of dealing with your bitchy attitude). When someone disagrees with you, you result to personal insults and bring up your past history with whomever you're arguing with (and let's face it, you've clashed with many forum members). It's you who are the joke, a ****ing bitchy negative one at that. You are a somewhat intelligent guy, but it's all negated by your lack of any class or respect for others on the internet. You're a crass ******* and I'm getting sick of your bull**** fast. Really fast.

[Knicksman20]

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but toney is still badass and a badass mofo too.

I almost fell from my chair at work laughing at this!!! LOL!!!!