Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[ADP02]

Yes I responded!!!!


I even gave you an example.


If the test results are above the threshold then that gives indication that the athlete used EPO drug while if it is under the threshold the indication is that the athlete did not use EPO drug.

Why is it so hard for you to understand? That is a test BUT that does not mean that there is not another criteria that can conflict with the threshold test. That is what the panel is telling YOU, that is what I am telling YOU.

You were and still are too stuck on Threshold Substances! That is your problem. You cannot seem to see past that. That is your problem!

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Your problem is that you are stuck on this type of a test: Substance X was found in the urine samples.
In sample A, there was 40 ng/ml. This means that substance X came from human origin only since the threshold is 50 ng/ml

In sample B, there was 90 ng/ml. This means that it exceeded the threshold and the indication is that substance X came from human + drug in origin BUT it is the same substance X.
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With EPO for example, it doesn't work that way for a number of reasons.
For one, rEPO is not found in the human body. That is, any amount of rEPO will be enough to indicate a positive test result for rEPO.
Number 2 is that there are several test criteria.
Number 3 is that one of the tests is a RATIO test to indicate if there is rEPO or there is no indication of rEPO. That is a threshold type test. YES!!!!

YOU ARE STUCK!!!!



It doesn't need to be a threshold substance to have a threshold type test. Even for non-threshold substances, there can be threshold type tests involved. The panel is stating this but you are having a hard time understanding this. I am not sure why.

YOU MISENTERPRETED ALL OF THIS!!!

Again, the way you are saying, is that threshold substances only can have a threshold type test.

YOU ARE WRONG!!!



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Let it go. This proves you are wrong.







As it did about a year ago, and you still can't get over it. You lost. In fact, you lost 4-0. Take it like a man and give the fvvck up.

This was all because of your DEFLECTION that you won't answer to. Did you ever think EPO was a threshold substance, ADP? Do you see why you are confused now? And you ask why the court out of nowhere discussed threshold substances???? Because of people like you who say talk about thresholds and they have to put you in your place. GIVE THE FUCCK UP! THE INFORMATION IS CLEAR. IT'S OVER.

What? Did you even read what I said?


Just be honest with yourself. You do not even know what I'm wrong about when you say that I am wrong!

On the other hand, I know exactly what I'm talking about when I say that you Misunderstood what the panel was saying.


There can be threshold type tests even for non-threshold substances. You on the other hand are saying that the panel is saying that only threshold substances can. Right? If not, what are you saying because it certainly makes no sense!!!


Told you, You misinterpreted it all. You, like the athlete, tried to compare threshold substances with threshold test criteria! Apples and oranges!!!!



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[Spoon23]

This thread is 75% "copy and paste" spam.

lololololol

So angry.

Says the biggest Fl0motard in all of NSB.

Yeah, those 500,000 viewers are all copy paste too haha! Shake those PomPoms Dosumpthin, Floyd, your hero got a gifted win and he's keeping it. Rejoice!

DOSUMPTHIN, TRAVESTYNY'S GO TO ALT HAS COME OUT OF THE MOUSE HOLE AGAIN!!

The pioneer of all Fl0mo hoes is BACK!!

You can't make this shyit up! haha!

One man stands alone from all the rest.

One man Trumps all.

No one can DOSUMPTHIN about it. No one

The one the only, (except for Travestyny her main account)

THE CLOWN OF ALL CLOWNS IN THE CIRCUS SIDESHOW

There can only be one...

[travestyny]

lololololol

says the biggest fl0motard in all of nsb.

Yeah, those 500,000 viewers are all copy paste too haha! Shake those pompoms dosumpthin, floyd, your hero got a gifted win and he's keeping it. Rejoice!

dosumpthin, travestyny's go to alt has come out of the mouse hole again!!

the pioneer of all fl0mo hoes is back!!

you can't make this shyit up! Haha!

hey hey, it's buboy!!!

How's Pac doin? Do you think he's ready or what?

[travestyny]

What? Did you even read what I said?


Just be honest with yourself. You do not even know what I'm wrong about when you say that I am wrong!

On the other hand, I know exactly what I'm talking about when I say that you Misunderstood what the panel was saying.


There can be threshold type tests even for non-threshold substances. You on the other hand are saying that the panel is saying that only threshold substances can. Right? If not, what are you saying because it certainly makes no sense!!!


Told you, You misinterpreted it all. You, like the athlete, tried to compare threshold substances with threshold test criteria! Apples and oranges!!!!



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Did I read what you wrote????

ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? NO I DIDN'T READ WHAT YOU WROTE.

You Keep writing the same thing over and over. You're in a loop of despair. I no longer give a fvcck about it because YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG AND YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG.

The court's information is CLEAR. IT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. Not only that, but you DEFLECTED TO THIS WHOLE THING BY SAYING EPO WAS A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE...BECAUSE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. DIDN'T YOU?

This is not a discussion on Threshold substance

Sample A is a mixture of those 2 urine samples. There the second is diluting the initial one.

b) Threshold substances, there can be traces but the delay and dilution will drive down the numbers

YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND THEN YOU TRIED TO SQUIRM OUT OF IT WHEN WE GOT INTO THE DOME. THE COURT STILL PROVED YOU WRONG.

EPO drug when it exceeds or
just human EPO if it does not exceed!

there is no threshold above which*it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

It’s over. IT'S CLEAR AS DAY IN WHAT IT SAYS AND I HAVE NO DESIRE TO KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING TO YOU OVER AND OVER. GIVE UP!

[Spoon23]

hey hey, it's buboy!!!

How's Pac doin? Do you think he's ready or what?

lol So lame.. Buboy haha

lolololololololol

I thought you left already??

You said you're leaving in post 6331?

Why are you back again you Freak! Have some dignity back you suck! haha!!


Do me a favor. Pls have some dignity back by committing to what you said that you'll never be coming back here anymore. That's a start of saving your non credible reputation haha!

Now for your final send off. Happy sails.

You can end your countdown now. I’m not returning to your thread

And yet you are here.

Now I'll let your thread die. Good luck with those tears, bro If you ever find your balls in your little pink purse and you want to step up to the challenge, do let me know, yea?

And yet for 2 months while I was away, Travestyny's has been keeping this thread going. You can't make this shyit up! haha!

CREDIBILITY = ZERO

T-10

9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1..






It's time to leave you with your pathetic life Travesty. I'll give you a call if I need your service Biatch!! hahaha!!

Stay down. That's good for you. Believe me. I feel sorry writing this but you need to realize. There are hard lessons you need to learn form life this is one of them.

Good bye TravestyNy. Happy sails.

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[ADP02]

Did I read what you wrote????

ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION? NO I DIDN'T READ WHAT YOU WROTE.

You Keep writing the same thing over and over. You're in a loop of despair. I no longer give a fvcck about it because YOU KNOW YOU'RE WRONG AND YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG.

The court's information is CLEAR. IT DIRECTLY CONTRADICTS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. Not only that, but you DEFLECTED TO THIS WHOLE THING BY SAYING EPO WAS A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE...BECAUSE YOU MISUNDERSTOOD THIS FROM THE BEGINNING. DIDN'T YOU?







YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND THEN YOU TRIED TO SQUIRM OUT OF IT WHEN WE GOT INTO THE DOME. THE COURT STILL PROVED YOU WRONG.








It’s over. IT'S CLEAR AS DAY IN WHAT IT SAYS AND I HAVE NO DESIRE TO KEEP SAYING THE SAME THING TO YOU OVER AND OVER. GIVE UP!

DEFLECTOR .....

Nope ... YOU MISUNDERSTOOD what the panel was trying to say.


This is what is meant by clear as day:
1) Dr Catlin called it a threshold!!! You tried to say that he was wrong too, rememeber?

Dr Catlin's name is there as author for the EPO technical document!!!

2) Both sides in that case called it a threshold criteria even though one side was trying to say that other criteria are just as reliable and should be included in the EPO testing scope. Hmmm, I wonder how they can too mix this all up? So many people are wrong, not Travestyny. He is the only one right! Kinda dumb when you think about it, no?

3) Other cases call the BAP test a threshold test!!!

4) Years later, WADA EPO experts call it a threshold test


Man, all those people are wrong according to Travestyny!!!

NOPE: TRAVESTNY IS WRONG!!!!!



Sorry but I take Dr Catlin over you Travestyny!




Travestyny, YOU ARE WRONG!!!!
You misunderstood what the panel was trying to tell the athlete. It's that it is not a threshold substance. Yet you kept on posting that statement here.


Too funny!!!

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[travestyny]

lol So lame.. Buboy haha

lolololololololol

I thought you left already??

You said you're leaving in post 6331?

Why are you back again you Freak! Have some dignity back you suck! haha!!


Do me a favor. Pls have some dignity back by committing to what you said that you'll never be coming back here anymore. That's a start of saving your non credible reputation haha!

Now for your final send off. Happy sails.




And yet you are here.



And yet for 2 months while I was away, Travestyny's has been keeping this thread going. You can't make this shyit up! haha!

CREDIBILITY = ZERO

T-10

9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1..






It's time to leave you with your pathetic life Travesty. I'll give you a call if I need your service Biatch!! hahaha!!

Stay down. That's good for you. Believe me. I feel sorry writing this but you need to realize. There are hard lessons you need to learn form life this is one of them.

Good bye TravestyNy. Happy sails.

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Relax, homie. Just checking in on your boy’s progress. Since you are best friends and all.

Do you think he wins? If so, how? Knockout?

[travestyny]

Nope ... YOU MISUNDERSTOOD what the panel was trying to say.


This is what is meant by clear as day:
1) Dr Catlin called it a threshold!!! You tried to say that he was wrong too, rememeber?

Dr Catlin's name is there as author for the EPO technical document!!!

2) Both sides in that case called it a threshold criteria even though one side was trying to say that other criteria are just as reliable and should be included in the EPO testing scope. Hmmm, I wonder how they can too mix this all up. So many people are wrong, not Travestyny. He is the only one right! Kinda dumb, no?

3) Other cases call the BAP test a threshold test!!!

4) Years later, WADA EPO experts call it a threshold test


Man, all those people are wrong according to Travestyny!!!

NOPE: TRAVESTNY IS WRONG!!!!!


Sorry but I take Dr Catlin over you Travestyny!


Travestyny, YOU ARE WRONG!!!! You misunderstood what the panel was trying to tell the athlete. It's that it is not a threshold substance. Yet you kept on posting that statement here.


Too funny!!!

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You’re obsessed and mental at this point. I think I broke you, though I sincerely didn’t mean to. Sorry for all the insulting things I’ve said to you. I hope you recover one day.

I really do. Being dead serious. I don’t think you can cope with this loss. Maybe it hurts you more than Pac’s Loss to Mayweather. I hope you recover.

[ADP02]

DEFLECTOR .....

Nope ... YOU MISUNDERSTOOD what the panel was trying to say.


This is what is meant by clear as day:
1) Dr Catlin called it a threshold!!! You tried to say that he was wrong too, rememeber?

Dr Catlin's name is there as author for the EPO technical document!!!

2) Both sides in that case called it a threshold criteria even though one side was trying to say that other criteria are just as reliable and should be included in the EPO testing scope. Hmmm, I wonder how they can too mix this all up? So many people are wrong, not Travestyny. He is the only one right! Kinda dumb when you think about it, no?

3) Other cases call the BAP test a threshold test!!!

4) Years later, WADA EPO experts call it a threshold test


Man, all those people are wrong according to Travestyny!!!

NOPE: TRAVESTNY IS WRONG!!!!!



Sorry but I take Dr Catlin over you Travestyny!




Travestyny, YOU ARE WRONG!!!!
You misunderstood what the panel was trying to tell the athlete. It's that it is not a threshold substance. Yet you kept on posting that statement here.


Too funny!!!

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You’re obsessed and mental at this point. I think I broke you, though I sincerely didn’t mean to. Sorry for all the insulting things I’ve said to you. I hope you recover one day.

I really do. Being dead serious. I don’t think you can cope with this loss. Maybe it hurts you more than Pac’s Loss to Mayweather. I hope you recover.

YOU SIR, just went on
FULL METAL JACKET DEFLECTOR ALERT!!!!


You thought that you can DEFLECT your way out of this one?

That is why you kept on bringing off topic statements. Just so you can DEFLECT your way out of stating the obvious!

TRAVESTYNY, YOU ARE WRONG!!! It's time for you to just admit the truth!!!


Just look at my above post. ALL those people say that YOU ARE WRONG!!!! Not one says that you are right. Doesn't it make you think and say, "Well, maybe, I Travestyny, am WRONG!!!!"


I gave you multiple opportunities by even saying "I do not want to put words in your mouth but did you just say ......"

and you kept on stating that only threshold substances have threshold type tests.


JUST ADMIT - TRAVESTNY IS WRONG!!!


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[travestyny]

YOU SIR, just went on
FULL METAL JACKET DEFLECTOR ALERT!!!!


You thought that you can DEFLECT your way out of this one?

That is why you kept on bringing off topic statements. Just so you can DEFLECT your way out of stating the obvious!

TRAVESTYNY, YOU ARE WRONG!!! It's time for you to just admit the truth!!!


Just look at my above post. ALL those people say that YOU ARE WRONG!!!! Not one says that you are right. Doesn't it make you think and say, "Well, maybe, I Travestyny, am WRONG!!!!"


I gave you multiple opportunities by even saying "I do not want to put words in your mouth but did you just say ......"

and you kept on stating that only threshold substances have threshold type tests.


JUST ADMIT - TRAVESTNY IS WRONG!!!


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NO BODY said I was wrong you lying bltch I’ve destroyed you over and over and over again. You just tried desperately to cling to the BAP and I destroyed you again!

You are obsessed. Too bad you were already proven wrong. How long are you gonna cry about this? Another two years????

You got shut down at every step you turned. Colorful big text won’t change the fact that you were proven wrong and destroyed 4-0. Get over it already...

Or explain this:

EPO drug when it exceeds or
just human EPO if it does not exceed!

there is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

It’s over. Stop crying to me about it. No one cares about your misunderstanding or your fragile ego over this loss!

By the way, tell me what was the threshold for the BAP? Hahahahahahaha. You lost, clown. That court case ruined your life!