David Haye is still too green, and not yet prime.

[beez721]

**** off ****, Areolla is an obese, hbo hype job with no skill, and he has beaten NOBODY, areolla is NOT A GOOD WIN, its a win over a PROSPECT who has already FAILED.

Valuev was a WORLD CHAMPION, ruiz was a former WORLD CHAMPION, those two are better than fat, AMERICAN HYPE JOB Areolla

I disagree. arreola as limited as he is still beats an aging valuev and ruiz

[paul750]

I fear Haye will never be ready for the Klitschkos.

[Steelhammer2011]

because he accomplished more than Haye has at HW when he beat Arreola.

Adamek's win over Arreola is more impressive than any of Haye's wins.

You guys are 100% correct.

Lets compare their resumes:

Tomasz Adamek

- Chris Arreola
- Jason Estrada
- Andrew Golota
- Johnathan Banks
- Steve Cunningham
- O'Neil Bell
- Paul Briggs x 2

David Haye

- Old shot John "9 losses" Ruiz
- Old shot Valuev (coming off loss to 77 year old shot Holyfield)
- Old shot Barrett (coming off 2nd round KO loss to tomato can
Cliff "21 losses" Couser)
- Glass chinned bum Maccarinelli
- Old shot Mormeck (coming off KO loss to O'Neil Bell)


Tomasz Adamek >>> David Haye

Adamek is the superior fighter and he clearly has the much better resume.

Fight prediction: Adamek by KO

[Steelhammer2011]

He isn't old as hell, he's a much better boxer than any of those 3 ever were, has a solid chin. I'd pick Chambers to outbox Haye.

Agreed.

Chambers >>> Haye

[Steelhammer2011]

Then why did Haye duck Chambers in the fall of 2008 and instead choose shot old Monte Barrett, who had been KOed by clubfighter Cliff Couser?


I don't agree. Haye has a sloppy UGLY style, always looking for opportunities to rabbit punch. He stopped both Barrett and Ruiz with punches to the back of the head.

Valuev-Haye was the the most boring fight of 2009, with Haye running like a heavyweight Corey Stinks.

Wlad-Chagaev was a masterful performance by Wlad, a boxing clinic. Wlad-Chambers ended with the KO of the year. Neither Chambers nor Chagaev had ever been knocked down before.

Good post bro.

[Joeyzagz]

You guys are 100% correct.



David Haye

- Old shot John "9 losses" Ruiz
- Old shot Valuev (coming off loss to 77 year old shot Holyfield)
- Old shot Barrett (coming off 2nd round KO loss to tomato can
Cliff "21 losses" Couser)
- Glass chinned bum Maccarinelli
- Old shot Mormeck (coming off KO loss to O'Neil Bell)


Tomasz Adamek >>> David Haye

Adamek is the superior fighter and he clearly has the much better resume.

Fight prediction: Adamek by KO

Stop contradicting yourself when you talk about age.

If 36 is so damn old, then why couldnt PRIME Vitali(bigger,stronger, faster) handle his business against 38 year old Lennox Lewis?

Is he feather-fisted or something? We all know Lennox isnt known for his Iron jaw....maybe Vitali just sucks at fighting geezers?

[Joeyzagz]

I made this thread because I am honest about Haye just as I am about the Klitschkos.

Im not going to lie about Hayes opposition, and make them out to be lions.

For Example, a poster on here claimed that golfer Corrie Sanders was an ATG fighter just for beating Glass Wlad. That is absurd.

Sanders is a guy who was Ko'd twice before by much stronger boxers such as Nate Tubbs and Hasim Rahman. Corrie is no where near an atg, he is simply from a superior heavyweight era, and schooled Glass Wlad with ease.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

LOL what the **** has Arreola ever done really?? the Klit stans act like this is some A grade win. The guy got shut out by VK and won about 3 rounds vs a blow up Crusier who was unable to hurt him even with 2-3 flush shots to the face...

He allmost got knocked out by Travis Walker

He had a brutal fight with a Journeyman and was getting tagged all night in his fight before Adamek..

His best win is an ANCIENT and never that good Mcline

He is just some HBO hype cause he could be the very first Mexican HW champ

He comes into fights vastly overweight and fat

[MOTHER DUCKER]

But Haye only fights HWs who are past age 36: Barrett, Valuev, and Ruiz. Povetkin, Arreola, Chambers, Peter and Adamek are in their prime, Haye will avoid them. .

LoL @ that

Arreola is ****

Chambers is a blown up small cruiser with decent skills but NO pop what so ever, he will never be a force at HW even in this terrible era.

Povetkin is hiding in Tony Atlas basement somewhere dude has gone AWOL

[Earl-Hickey]

Then why did Haye duck Chambers in the fall of 2008 and instead choose shot old Monte Barrett, who had been KOed by clubfighter Cliff Couser?


I don't agree. Haye has a sloppy UGLY style, always looking for opportunities to rabbit punch. He stopped both Barrett and Ruiz with punches to the back of the head.

Valuev-Haye was the the most boring fight of 2009, with Haye running like a heavyweight Corey Stinks.

Wlad-Chagaev was a masterful performance by Wlad, a boxing clinic. Wlad-Chambers ended with the KO of the year. Neither Chambers nor Chagaev had ever been knocked down before.

Because everyone at heavyweight has to fight Monte Barett, it's like a rite of passage!