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  • DeeMoney
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    Whose their second best win though?

    I remember once hearing someone argue that Joe Frazier was 'overrated' and one of their main points was, "name his second best win." Implying that outside of Ali he didn't beat anyone. And while I may not agree with Frazier being overrated, it got me thinking, how many big name fighters have a resume with their top scalp being far better than their next best?

    Frazier's best win is clearly Ali, his second is probably Jimmy Ellis, thats a fairly decent drop. The other fighter I thought of was Iran Barkley, he beat Hearns but whose his next best win?

    I was wondering what other fighters you feel fit this mold? With the top win on his resume being far superior to the next.
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    #2
    Originally posted by DeeMoney
    I remember once hearing someone argue that Joe Frazier was 'overrated' and one of their main points was, "name his second best win." Implying that outside of Ali he didn't beat anyone. And while I may not agree with Frazier being overrated, it got me thinking, how many big name fighters have a resume with their top scalp being far better than their next best?

    Frazier's best win is clearly Ali, his second is probably Jimmy Ellis, thats a fairly decent drop. The other fighter I thought of was Iran Barkley, he beat Hearns but whose his next best win?

    I was wondering what other fighters you feel fit this mold? With the top win on his resume being far superior to the next.
    Marquez.

    Only beat Pacman with roids. And that's it.

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      #3
      Originally posted by DeeMoney
      I remember once hearing someone argue that Joe Frazier was 'overrated' and one of their main points was, "name his second best win." Implying that outside of Ali he didn't beat anyone. And while I may not agree with Frazier being overrated, it got me thinking, how many big name fighters have a resume with their top scalp being far better than their next best?

      Frazier's best win is clearly Ali, his second is probably Jimmy Ellis, thats a fairly decent drop. The other fighter I thought of was Iran Barkley, he beat Hearns but whose his next best win?

      I was wondering what other fighters you feel fit this mold? With the top win on his resume being far superior to the next.




      who cares ?

      his argument totally missed the point

      the question regarding greatness is... how high was his ceiling?

      the answer in Frasier's case is... Ali

      coughing... spluttering... then blurting out... b,b,b,b,but, who else? ... is crawling up your own ass looking for excuses

      prime Ali, is the answer to that question...which is a ATG answer

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        #4
        Originally posted by Rick Taylor
        Marquez.

        Only beat Pacman with roids. And that's it.




        typical, ignorant, casual-fan, nonsense... from the latest shlthead to join this forum

        Marquez beat more people than cancer, and some of them were pretty damn good LMAO

        a smarter reply would have been, the question is nonsense... instead... you answered the nonsense, with even worse nonsense

        what a fkn ****head

        I could tell you were one of those Pacquiao > Golovkin > Joshua, morons

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          #5
          Originally posted by aboutfkntime
          typical, ignorant, casual-fan, nonsense... from the latest shlthead to join this forum

          Marquez beat more people than cancer, and some of them were pretty damn good LMAO

          a smarter reply would have been, the question is nonsense... instead... you answered the nonsense, with even worse nonsense

          what a fkn ****head

          I could tell you were one of those Pacquiao > Golovkin > Joshua, morons
          Whoa, why is my question nonsense? I am not trolling, not insulting anyone, but asking a legitimate question: 'which fighter in history has the biggest difference between his biggest win and his next biggest win?'

          Not taking cheap shots or anything of that nature just posing a simple question about boxing history to discuss. As is, you seem to have apparently put your own spin on it in your own mind and dismissed it as a whole. Why so? What about this topic in general do you deem nonsense?

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            #6
            Originally posted by DeeMoney
            Whoa, why is my question nonsense? I am not trolling, not insulting anyone, but asking a legitimate question: 'which fighter in history has the biggest difference between his biggest win and his next biggest win?'

            Not taking cheap shots or anything of that nature just posing a simple question about boxing history to discuss. As is, you seem to have apparently put your own spin on it in your own mind and dismissed it as a whole. Why so? What about this topic in general do you deem nonsense?





            you said it was someone else's question


            put it this way...


            are you a Golovkin fan?


            Q. Golovkin's best win is Jacobs... hardly ATG, but anyway... who is his 2nd best win?

            A. David Lemieux


            why did you comment on the answer I gave to another poster ?

            this was my answer to your thread/question...

            his argument totally missed the point

            the question regarding greatness is... how high was his ceiling?

            the answer in Frasier's case is... Ali

            coughing... spluttering... then blurting out... b,b,b,b,but, who else? ... is crawling up your own ass looking for excuses

            prime Ali, is the answer to that question...which is a ATG answer


            I wasn't having a go at you, apologies if it seemed that way

            but I was, definitely having a go at that ****head

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              Douglas is the only one that jumps up at me

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                #8
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                you said it was someone else's question


                put it this way...


                are you a Golovkin fan?


                Q. Golovkin's best win is Jacobs... hardly ATG, but anyway... who is his 2nd best win?

                A. David Lemieux


                why did you comment on the answer I gave to another poster ?

                this was my answer to your thread/question...





                I wasn't having a go at you, apologies if it seemed that way

                but I was, definitely having a go at that ****head
                My Bad. and as I wrote, I think the Frazier question was nonsense to begin with, as he is not overrated.

                As to the GGG question, I am a fan of his; but I dont think Lemieux is second best win, I would put Geale and Murray ahead of him. But I still don't think that spread of talent is as big as the difference between Ali and Ellis (Frazier's best two), or Hearns and Whoever you think is Barkley's second best win.
                Last edited by DeeMoney; 01-04-2021, 10:00 PM.

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                  #9
                  randy turpin - ray robinson then cyrille delannoit.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                    typical, ignorant, casual-fan, nonsense... from the latest shlthead to join this forum

                    Marquez beat more people than cancer, and some of them were pretty damn good LMAO

                    a smarter reply would have been, the question is nonsense... instead... you answered the nonsense, with even worse nonsense

                    what a fkn ****head

                    I could tell you were one of those Pacquiao > Golovkin > Joshua, morons
                    Marquez beat shot fighters and bums.

                    Anyone who loses to Norwood and Chris John is a pussy

                    Going life and death with absolute bum Juan Diaz's ghost.
                    And struggling with Barreras ghost. lmao YDKSAB 😝

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