Why JJOHNSON Duck Langford/Jeannette in Paris???

[GhostofDempsey]

Here is your "draw".
Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. Johnson 20lbs heavier. The local paper called it a draw, though it also said Johnson was the cleverer boxer and ring general and slightly outclassed Jeannette. Research done by Adam Pollack.

In your desperate need to be right about something that you had to quote me from a post I made three years ago, LOL. Local papers say a lot of things that may be right or wrong from over 100 years ago. You still have not learned that lesson.

[Dr. Z]

Here is your "draw".
Johnson defends world 'colored' heavyweight title. Johnson 20lbs heavier. The local paper called it a draw, though it also said Johnson was the cleverer boxer and ring general and slightly outclassed Jeannette. Research done by Adam Pollack.

WHAT? Jack Johnson was lucky not to lose his tile and the research by Adam Pollack says not one judge vote for Jack, but one judge voted for Jim Battling Johnson!. And Adam Pollack who I think was banned here, is a pro Jack Johnson guy.

Here is what happened

• A cabled article printed in the Evening World (New York stated:

Jack Johnson barely missed losing his heavyweight championship in a ten round bout here last night. Jeffries' conqueror met Battling Jim Johnson, a big negro from Memphis Tenn. and barely lasted through the final round. He was tottering and groggy at the finish. A few rounds more and he might have been knocked out. . . . In the last minute of the fight the Memphis negro rushed Johnson to the ropes and in a mixup both went to the floor, with Jack's arm around Jim's waist. Both were on their feet quickly but Jack looked exhausted just as the final bell rang. It is possible that Jack hurt his arm in the fall to the floor. . . . In the seventh round the Memphis man succeeded in breaking down Jack's guard and three times after landing on the body grazed Jack's jaw with terrific uppercuts

No charge as usual.

I suspect this fight of Johnson vs.Johnson is out there and owned by ESPN Classic library but 99% of their collection not aired Wouldn't you like to see it?

[Ivich]

In your desperate need to be right about something that you had to quote me from a post I made three years ago, LOL. Local papers say a lot of things that may be right or wrong from over 100 years ago. You still have not learned that lesson.

Actually I'm bored with the current threads and started trawling though old ones.
Please point out the rule that states old threads may not be re-activated?
As to your thread just about everything you posted was total BS .

As I have certainly proved.
1.Johnson,far from hiding because Langford and Jeannette were in town defended his title,the real title,the day BEFORE they fought!
2 The reason Langford was stripped of the title 3 weeks after the French had awarded it to him was not because he returned to the US or because he failed to defend it .It was because by recognizing the winner of the Langford vJeannette fight as worlds champion,the French Federation had made a laughing stock of itself so it quickly reversed its silly decision.
3.Langfprd did not return to the US ,a month after the Jeannette fight he fought Mathew Curran in the same arena he had fought Jeannette.
Why don't you do some research before making a fool of yourself with these silly claims?

[GhostofDempsey]

Actually I'm bored with the current threads and started trawling though old ones.
Please point out the rule that states old threads may not be re-activated?
As to your thread just about everything you posted was total BS .

As I have certainly proved.
1.Johnson,far from hiding because Langford and Jeannette were in town defended his title,the real title,the day BEFORE they fought!
2 The reason Langford was stripped of the title 3 weeks after the French had awarded it to him was not because he returned to the US or because he failed to defend it .It was because by recognizing the winner of the Langford vJeannette fight as worlds champion,the French Federation had made a laughing stock of itself so it quickly reversed its silly decision.
3.Langfprd did not return to the US ,a month after the Jeannette fight he fought Mathew Curran in the same arena he had fought Jeannette.
Why don't you do some research before making a fool of yourself with these silly claims?

Nothing I posted was BS. Johnson did in fact fight Battling Jim for far less than what Jeannette offered earlier that same year. Johnson could have defended his title against Jeannette or any of the other top black contenders anywhere in the world, but didn't.

You're long winded and irrelevant off-topic posts aren't necessary. It must be your time of the month again.

[QueensburyRules]

Langford was stripped of his spurious title by the French Federation a few weeks after they had awarded him their version of the title.
World Heavyweight Title,
as recognized by the French Boxing Federation which had stripped Jack Johnson (and which shortly after stripped Langford).
Far from going back to the States Langford fought P O Curran a month later in the same Paris arena.It was not billed as a "World Heavyweight Title fight"

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[Ivich]

WHAT? Jack Johnson was lucky not to lose his tile and the research by Adam Pollack says not one judge vote for Jack, but one judge voted for Jim Battling Johnson!. And Adam Pollack who I think was banned here, is a pro Jack Johnson guy.

Here is what happened

No charge as usual.

I suspect this fight of Johnson vs.Johnson is out there and owned by ESPN Classic library but 99% of their collection not aired Wouldn't you like to see it?

The Johnson v Johnson fight was not filmed.
Adam Pollack is acknowledged as an expert on Johnson, his biographies are considered the bench mark. I don't think it is wise for you to be talking about people being banned,you yourself being banned for life from Classic Boxing Forum .Adam is banned nowhere BTW because his take on Johnson does not jive with your own hate filled, one he is a fan ofJohnson's? That's the sort of twisted reasoning one would expect from you
You as always, left out that the champion was fighting with a broken arm,but, just as your two fellow haters Ghost and Queensbury nobody takes you seriously on this subject so its of no consequence ,rather like yourself really.

[QueensburyRules]

He defended his worlds title the day before they fought each other,how much more of a presence would you require?lol

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[Ivich]

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The Forum's Fool.

[Ivich]

Nothing I posted was BS. Johnson did in fact fight Battling Jim for far less than what Jeannette offered earlier that same year. Johnson could have defended his title against Jeannette or any of the other top black contenders anywhere in the world, but didn't.

You're long winded and irrelevant off-topic posts aren't necessary. It must be your time of the month again.

Johnsons price was $30,000,he made exceptions for gimmees like Battling Jim,just as champions today take less to defend against less dangerous challengers.
The record shows,whenJohnson's price was met to defend against;
Langford
Jeannette
McVey
He signed on the dotted line,and no amount of prevarication and spin will ever change that fact.

[GhostofDempsey]

Johnsons price was $30,000,he made exceptions for gimmees like Battling Jim,just as champions today take less to defend against less dangerous challengers.
The record shows,whenJohnson's price was met to defend against;
Langford
Jeannette
McVey
He signed on the dotted line,and no amount of prevarication and spin will ever change that fact.

Johnson's demand was $30K, Jeannette offered $20K, Johnson settled for less than $5K...closer to $1K. All in the distance of one year. That is a DUCK! If Tyson Fury demands $100M, Joshua offers him $80M, Fury fights Charles Martin for $5M...he just ducked AJ. No one would respect his choice of opponent either.

He signed knowing the fights could not be made or moving the goal posts after he signed. History shows he drew the color line as champion. Langford, Jeannette and most historians agree.