Jack Dempsey's Refusal to Fight Joe Jeanette

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  • HOUDINI563
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    #21
    It is well known understood history that the fiasco was a set up to force a fight with Jeannette. It was completely improper for the promoters to change opponents as they did. Everyone understood this as fact. Jeanette was told to insult and then attack Dempsey if need be. No fighter would consent and agree to such improper conduct. Dempsey himself wanted to go on with it but Kearns, properly, refused such treatment. It was an insult to allow this to occur.

    Now tell everyone why you ignored this well known and understood history but instead presented YOUR distorted version which not surprisingly is 100% negative towards Dempsey. Why are all your conclusions 100% negative towards Dempsey. Do you realize that the known history completely exonerates him from any blame regarding a proposed bout with Wills not occurring?

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      #22
      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
      It is well known understood history that the fiasco was a set up to force a fight with Jeannette. It was completely improper for the promoters to change opponents as they did. Everyone understood this as fact. Jeanette was told to insult and then attack Dempsey if need be. No fighter would consent and agree to such improper conduct. Dempsey himself wanted to go on with it but Kearns, properly, refused such treatment. It was an insult to allow this to occur.
      Dempsey wanted to go on with it, you say?

      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
      Now tell everyone why you ignored this well known and understood history but instead presented YOUR distorted version which not surprisingly is 100% negative towards Dempsey. Why are all your conclusions 100% negative towards Dempsey. Do you realize that the known history completely exonerates him from any blame regarding a proposed bout with Wills not occurring?
      Dempsey wanted to go on with it, right?

      Does this look distorted to you

      Originally posted by Jack Dempsey
      I'll fight any white man they put on, but I didn't agree to fight a colored boy.

      Did Jack Dempsey say that, or nah?


      If it's negative, it's negative. Take it as it is.



      As for Wills, when you answer my quetions that you keep ducking, then you'll get your answer. But if you keep ducking them, you will never know the truth. If you want to live in MendaCity, suit yaself.
      Last edited by travestyny; 07-11-2020, 11:52 PM.

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        #23
        Wrong! In the ring Dempsey wanted to fight. Kearns declined. Study up! Story has been known for over 100 years but not surprisingly you take the opposing view. Tell everyone why. Last chance.

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          #24
          Originally posted by HOUDINI563
          Wrong! In the ring Dempsey wanted to fight. Kearns declined. Study up! Story has been known for over 100 years but not surprisingly you take the opposing view. Tell everyone why. Last chance.
          If he wanted to fight, why didn't he fight


          If he wanted to fight, why did he say he didn't agree to fight a colored boy. Study up


          Just like he wanted to fight Wills, but broke that contract. Yea, I believe he wanted that fight


          ANY WHITE MAN, tho. Why do YOU constantly ignore EVERYTHING I write. Hmmm?

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            #25
            Please let everyone know why your every post ignores history written 100 years ago. As one example why would you omit that the change of opponent was a set up? Why would you omit that Jeanette was told to attack Dempsey physically and insult him? Why would you omit that Dempsey in the ring wanted to fight but Kearns realizing it was a set up declined? Please tell everyone why you omit all this information but only present info that paints a Faldo picture of what occurred that night. Please tell everyone.

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              #26
              Originally posted by HOUDINI563
              Please let everyone know why your every post ignores history written 100 years ago. As one example why would you omit that the change of opponent was a set up? Why would you omit that Jeanette was told to attack Dempsey physically and insult him? Why would you omit that Dempsey in the ring wanted to fight but Kearns realizing it was a set up declined? Please tell everyone why you omit all this information but only present info that paints a Faldo picture of what occurred that night. Please tell everyone.
              Ignoring history? Whose history?

              It was never confirmed that there was any set up. You have proof of that?

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                #27
                You reveal your hand. This set up has been written about for many many decades. It’s boxing history. You ignore it because it does not fit your agenda.

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                  #28
                  I suggest everyone put this liar on ignore.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                    You reveal your hand. This set up has been written about for many many decades. It’s boxing history. You ignore it because it does not fit your agenda.
                    Then post the proof that it was a set up. First of all you have to prove it. Second of all, you have to deal with Jack Dempsey saying he will fight ANY heavyweight. Third, you can deal with his quotation saying exactly why he would not fight Jeanette, but would fight ANY white man.


                    Go for it! Step up to the challenge and stop being shy.


                    It could have very well been a "set up," but these were rumors that were not confirmed. What we know is that Dempsey backed down from the Jeanette challenge, and he stated exactly why. It was simply because he was black, which should not surprise anyone. I don't think that anyone has disagreed that it was because he is black, besides maybe Willy.

                    Or is the argument that it wasn't Jeanette being black, but being too good. If that's the argument, nah, I'm not buying it.

                    Otherwise, people can make up their own opinion about whether this puts Dempsey in a bad light or not. It's not my concern what anyone thinks one way or another. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
                    Last edited by travestyny; 07-12-2020, 12:50 AM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by HOUDINI563
                      I suggest everyone put this liar on ignore.
                      And I suggest everyone call you a coward for catching feelings about your heroes shortcomings. Not everyone can be perfect. Get over it.

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