Tunney versus Louis who wins?

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Your thoughts concerning Louis are really ass backwards.

You cannot compare Holmes to Louis regarding skill or power. Louis checks most all the boxes. Holmes was a great fighter and I watched his every bout live from Ibar Arrington to his second bout with Spinks. However he, and most other heavyweight champions, does not rate on the same scale as Louis in terms of boxing skill and power. True Boxing skill is much more than having a great jab.

You honestly compare Holmes getting hit with one blow from Shavers to the lethal offense that Louis brought into the ring? Completely incomparable. Shavers was a very limited heavyweight contender. Great power but very little else. Poor stamina, poor chin, no defense. I watched Earnie in his every televised bout and saw him train back in 76 several times.

You need to brush up on what makes a great fighter. No heavyweight fighter since Louis exhibits his skill set. Where you come to these ass backward conclusions is beyond me and you are in a very limited minority. You would be laughed at by any knowledgeable boxing historian. Many uneducated individuals think by being controversial they exhibit knowledge.

Get to know how to fight and what it means to be a great fighter. Bragging your knowledge comes from posting on line 15 years is nothing to brag about. You are way out in left field because of it.

You had the floor to make your case for Louis and all you've done so far is claim he had great combinations and posted a couple of highlight videos. Like a true blowhard superfan who thinks with his emotions instead of brain, and is everything he accuses others of being you haven't even come close to making a case for why Louis' abilites would translate to great success against other HW greats from other (superior) era's.

I stand by what I said, with my main point being that at the highest level, skill alone is not the only thing that matters. Natural abilities transcend the sport, that's why Ali is the greatest heavyweights ever and Louis doesn't match up against the HW Greats H2H.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I dunno how you can actually watch footage of these men and give Louis much of a chance.

Tunney probably sends him to the canvas. Maybe even more than once.

Prime Dempsey vs. Prime Tunney, now that's a pick 'em.

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In a three fight series, I think I'd have Tunney winning two. His style is completely wrong for Louis. He's like a bigger, stronger Billy Conn with a better chin.

About as easy to predict as Foreman smashing swarmers like Tyson. Louis loses this one badly.

High IQ movement based boxers who can take a punch spell trouble for him. A guy like Tunney is just amazing with the way he could keep that effective footwork up for so many rounds without losing steam.

Louis wouldn't find him, he has a puncher's chance though. I always felt that Louis does badly in head to head matchups against different era's. A lot of people are too emotional when discussing this great fighter, you can just tell how much the idolism and adoration is affecting their judgement.

as much as I like Louis, I just can't see a way he has much of chance in this fight. Tunney's footwork is so good, and he could outbox Louis, probably Joe only has a chance if Tunney gets sloppy and takes a couple combos to the head. if this fight had ever happened we probably see how good Louis could fight with some desperation behind him, knowing the only way he could win is by KO. if he doesn't find a way to stop Tunney, he loses a UD

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I dunno how you can actually watch footage of these men and give Louis much of a chance.

Tunney probably sends him to the canvas. Maybe even more than once.

Prime Dempsey vs. Prime Tunney, now that's a pick 'em.

True on the pick 'em -- but if you dump the 'prime' fantasy angle and just go with a 'what if they fought earlier' scenario then Dempsey annihilates Tunney.

To be fair to Tunney he always claimed he had Dempsey figured out the night of the Carpentier fight; claimed he committed himself to beating Dempsey that night back in '21.

But IMHO Dempsey-Tunney anytime between 1919-1923 and Tunney doesn't last the distance.

I sometimes wonder about Holyfield-Tyson in '89, as they both were, at the time. In some ways I think it might have been a better fight.

[Rusty Tromboni]

True on the pick 'em -- but if you dump the 'prime' fantasy angle and just go with a 'what if they fought earlier' scenario then Dempsey annihilates Tunney.

To be fair to Tunney he always claimed he had Dempsey figured out the night of the Carpentier fight; claimed he committed himself to beating Dempsey that night back in '21.

But IMHO Dempsey-Tunney anytime between 1919-1923 and Tunney doesn't last the distance.

I sometimes wonder about Holyfield-Tyson in '89, as they both were, at the time. In some ways I think it might have been a better fight.

That's really interesting. Wellington while observing Napoleon saud he could've taken him out then, but was ordered to stand down. Maybe for the better?

IMO, Tunney might've seen the weakness he needed to exploit. But he wasn't ready. I agree, Dempsey would've beaten him. Gene was too much of a Light Heavyweight slugger, still.

Tunney was still several years short of his best. Where I believe he was at least Dempsey's equal.