Lennox Lewis vs World Boxing Association

[billeau2]

Outright bull****


If either brother wanted to make a splash they wouldn't have built their careers off minor belts in minor rankings


Vitali's a champion by 99 except the WBO was **** and no one gave a **** about it

Not, no one gave a **** about these two Euros because they were sad over these two euros winning, the ****ing most recognized name for a WBO champ by 99 was GD Morrison; no one gave a **** about the WBO.

People knew Tommy like they know Dre....the boxing fans knew, not the American fan base who bought Tyson's PPVs.

Moorer?

Bowe sure, but Bowe was a real champion first

Mercer?

They were the weak champion my entire childhood. Pick a name, the WBO champ before the K2 era was treated exactly like the K2s.....lesser than. Pick any name and tell me it ain't true.

K2 decided to fight for WBO titles and WBO ranks during a time when they actually could have gotten American interest. The WBO just wasn't how you do it. Morrison was barely known and his ass was in a Rocky.


By way of fighting WBO fights at a time when the WBO was a sideact they both builty resumes that amount to little during a time when they could have toppled some of the biggest, to this day, names in boxing.


Then, after all the talent is retired or should be, then, Wlad and Vitali make a play for belts that are not WBO while they themselves, their fans, and even the media tries to convince me it's not their faults they waited in the WBO while the big boys played in the big boy bodies until there were no big boys and the WBO was considered equal.


It is both the brother's fault their collective best fight is a losing effort to the real champion.

It is Wlad's fault most of his career he was uninterested in building in a real ranking and opted for a minor.


If some IBO champ who fought IBO level fighters sits on an IBO belt for four years and then in that time all the divisional names who held the WBC/WBA/IBF/WBO belts have retired so after the four years he makes a play for the IBF against a guy who was just four years ago IBO caliber and proceeds to continue defending against IBO fighters for the IBF; that mother ****er too would have a hard time building interest and would have the criticism of having never fought anyone worth a ****, and, would have to wait until new fans came with new perspective to forgive the entire IBO run and pretend like there was no one for this poor IBO fighter and we all just ignored him, not because he's an IBO scrub but because he's foreign......yeah.......nevermind we made Pac.....it's 'cause they foreign doe not because they ducked the real competition until there was none.

Great Post. You deconstructed that notion like.... like a champ! lol. I appreciate and learned how to research things...for me that is what college taught academically. That one needs to find a way to make assertions rational and proven... some people did not need college for that, but my mind is so damn big picture.

When I look at Vlad I see a guy who, unlike Lewis did not avenge his major loss. That tells me a lot in a big picture kind of way. Which is kind of like saying we were both invited to a pot luck, and I brought mac and cheese and you brought Duck leg confit!

Ill also say this M: People don't like to critisize Stewart. Stewart was a great trainer but he was also a smart guy... He worked with Vlad based on what he had to work with...kinda like Goldman with Marciano. Different type projects of course...But both men saw they could fix things. People don't realize things like: Vlad, as a professional fighter would flinch...a very amateurish habit. How do you fix that? the same way your taught to deal with an ambush: proceed straight ahead, grab the guy.

[Anthony342]

Great Post. You deconstructed that notion like.... like a champ! lol. I appreciate and learned how to research things...for me that is what college taught academically. That one needs to find a way to make assertions rational and proven... some people did not need college for that, but my mind is so damn big picture.

When I look at Vlad I see a guy who, unlike Lewis did not avenge his major loss. That tells me a lot in a big picture kind of way. Which is kind of like saying we were both invited to a pot luck, and I brought mac and cheese and you brought Duck leg confit!

Ill also say this M: People don't like to critisize Stewart. Stewart was a great trainer but he was also a smart guy... He worked with Vlad based on what he had to work with...kinda like Goldman with Marciano. Different type projects of course...But both men saw they could fix things. People don't realize things like: Vlad, as a professional fighter would flinch...a very amateurish habit. How do you fix that? the same way your taught to deal with an ambush: proceed straight ahead, grab the guy.

Exactly, beat him to the literal and sometimes figurative punch. Like Dan Stark says on the buddy cop comedy/drama TV series The Good Guys "The best way to beat an ambush is to ambush it. It's called a pre ambush ambush" lol. Sounds simple minded, but quite effective if you know it's coming. Great show, by the way. Too bad it only lasted one season. At least Amazon has it on DVD.

[billeau2]

Exactly, beat him to the literal and sometimes figurative punch. Like Dan Stark says on the buddy cop comedy/drama TV series The Good Guys "The best way to beat an ambush is to ambush it. It's called a pre ambush ambush" lol. Sounds simple minded, but quite effective if you know it's coming. Great show, by the way. Too bad it only lasted one season. At least Amazon has it on DVD.

Queenie seems to think somehow America was responsible for this strategy... go figure.