Jack Johnson backed out of signed contract to rematch Langford

[GhostofDempsey]

Are you going to level this same criticism at Jim Jeffries too, I wonder?

Or at the Klitschkos?

I already have. I was never a fan of the Klitschkos. I get a lot of shyt on NSB when I criticize Wlad and insist he isn't a top ten all-time HW. The Klitschko's success was largely due to their size advantage. Neither of them were nuanced boxers and they were not in the same league as previous champions. Wlad was notorious for his "jab and clinch" nonsense that made for some of the most boring contests. His fight with Fury was second only to Ruiz/Rahman on the boredom scale of HW title fights.

Jeffries was strong in his prime, but crude as a boxer. Managed to cram a lot of big names in a short career. Though my opinion of Corbett is that he was highly overrated. Tom Sharkey was highly underrated but much smaller than Jeffries.

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I already have. I was never a fan of the Klitschkos. I get a lot of shyt on NSB when I criticize Wlad and insist he isn't a top ten all-time HW. The Klitschko's success was largely due to their size advantage. Neither of them were nuanced boxers and they were not in the same league as previous champions. Wlad was notorious for his "jab and clinch" nonsense that made for some of the most boring contests. His fight with Fury was second only to Ruiz/Rahman on the boredom scale of HW title fights.

Jeffries was strong in his prime, but crude as a boxer. Managed to cram a lot of big names in a short career. Though my opinion of Corbett is that he was highly overrated. Tom Sharkey was highly underrated but much smaller than Jeffries.

And you must not rate Lomachenko's win over Rigondeaux too highly, then?

[GhostofDempsey]

And you must not rate Lomachenko's win over Rigondeaux too highly, then?

I have always said it was a good win, not a great win.

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I have always said it was a good win, not a great win.

How can it be a good win? He beat an aging smaller champion who moved up two weight classes.

[GhostofDempsey]

How can it be a good win? He beat an aging smaller champion who moved up two weight classes.

An aging smaller fighter who only weighed 7 pounds less on fight night, and was still considered a top ten P4P fighter by many. The BWAA had him as their #5 P4P going into the fight. ESPN had him as their #7. Like I said, a good win, not a great one.

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An aging smaller fighter who only weighed 7 pounds less on fight night, and was still considered a top ten P4P fighter by many. The BWAA had him as their #5 P4P going into the fight. ESPN had him as their #7. Like I said, a good win, not a great one.

It was easy to manhandle the smaller fighter. You should criticize the win not praise it.

[QueensburyRules]

It was easy to manhandle the smaller fighter. You should criticize the win not praise it.

- -U Boner shoulder roll has U eating too many punches.

No manhandling , but U didn't watch the fight. Rigormortis had several changes to fight Loma at 124 catchwt when Loma held the feather title. Instead Rigormortis started a bum a year club that don't pay the bills, hence forced into taking the Loma fight later.

Sorry to hear U just a troll who don't follow boxing...snickers...

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- -U Boner shoulder roll has U eating too many punches.

No manhandling , but U didn't watch the fight. Rigormortis had several changes to fight Loma at 124 catchwt when Loma held the feather title. Instead Rigormortis started a bum a year club that don't pay the bills, hence forced into taking the Loma fight later.

Sorry to hear U just a troll who don't follow boxing...snickers...

Isn't it past your bedtime, grandpa?

[GhostofDempsey]

It was easy to manhandle the smaller fighter. You should criticize the win not praise it.

Smaller by 7 pounds. A fight Rigo insisted he would win. Take it up with Rigo...he had a chance to make this fight at 126, and for more money, but he played himself.

Start a Rigo/Loma thread if you feel this strongly about it, this thread is about Johnson.

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Smaller by 7 pounds. A fight Rigo insisted he would win. Take it up with Rigo...he had a chance to make this fight at 126, and for more money, but he played himself.

Start a Rigo/Loma thread if you feel this strongly about it, this thread is about Johnson.

This thread is about Jack Johnson but you discredited his career because he was bigger than his opponents.

So bringing up Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux was relevant. Since you don't discredit that win for Lomachenko despite him being bigger than his opponent.