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  • billeau2
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    #161
    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
    You do know Nigeria was a British colony, right?
    America was a British Colony! (White people didn't always live here. How do you think they got here?)

    Lemme guess, you think Britain only sent soldiers to Nigeria that weren't interested in Boxing? They did everything they could to isolate Nigeria from Boxing.

    You're from NYC. So i'm sure you think the world's most popular sport is Yankees.. err Baseball... they're synonymous there right? Guess what! Outside America there's only a handful of countries where baseball's followed. And NO other country plays Aericam Gridiron Football.

    Do you know what IS the world's most popular sport? Association Football - Soccer. It's followed by Cricket. Do you know where they come from? That's right, Great Britain.

    Here's one that'll blow your mind: you're sitting in front of a computer talking about Boxing. Do you know where Computers and Boxing originated? Great Britain, too!

    You gotta get yourself out of the little world you've trapped yourself into.

    The world is a big place.

    Nigeria is a former British colony. People there, just like YOU, have been influenced from things abroad, namely the British Isles.

    I'd love to see your evidence that "those forms of combat were around long before the Brits came". Were you there to see it yourself? What documentation do you have of its existence? That it existed in the present form? Can you find other contemporary but unrelated peoples doing something similar... particularly in areas that aren't under British dominion?

    Like I said there's a thing called Occham's Razor. Look it up. When properly applied it makes everything clearer.
    You do know that there were many colonizers in Africa right? And those individuals had folk traditions involving fighting, yes they did...Zulu stick fighting, Forms of boxing. We know they existed because we see the forms depicted. No, we cannot teach an antiquated form of Egyptian, or African boxing...That is something that gets misappropriated in a big way.

    But these forms of fighting were recorded. Boxing is depicted in Egyptian reliefs and there are accounts of it in the Middle Kingdom writings of soldgers coming back from wars against the Nubian empires. This is common knowledge.

    Your contention that the Brits brought fist fighting to Nigeria is laughable. And your chauvanism about Britian is amusing. Your also talking about a much later period of history. Do you think all these places that the colonial empire went, did not have things? Are you aware of all the Indian Martial Arts traditions? some of which can actually be taught today? Or did the good ole Brits bring combat to those savages as well?

    I do you a favor, whether you are too ****** to realize it, or not, when I assume your perspective is born of a rash lack of understanding... God help you if it is not.

    You fly in here and make these assertions lol. Africa is a complex tribal entity...Tribal iden****** that all had fighting traditions because they fought with each other. Those fighting forms may have been institutionalized in a different way, and they may not be able to be taught as an art anymore, because the specific knowledge has not been passed down, and this is where the casuals make the error... It does not mean they did not exist and that their history is not known.

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    • Rusty Tromboni
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      #162
      Originally posted by travestyny
      No, but we know that a black man scared the shlt out of Sullivan




      That's exactly what he did. Ducked him.





      Your opinion about whether he was good enough means squat here. No one expects a racist like you to give him is just due. You already admit what's important.





      He was afraid of losing to a black man. You know it and I know it. It makes you mad, but dem be the breaks, kid!


      By the way, no talk of all of the smaller fighters your boy fought, huh? I thought you'd conveniently drop that. lol
      Why do you do this to yourself? You tell lies and twist the truth to appear relevant. But you're a g*****. A ratchet g*****.

      Just admit your boy started clamoring for a title shot he had no business asking for.

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      • Rusty Tromboni
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        #163
        Originally posted by billeau2
        You do know that there were many colonizers in Africa right? And those individuals had folk traditions involving fighting, yes they did...Zulu stick fighting, Forms of boxing. We know they existed because we see the forms depicted. No, we cannot teach an antiquated form of Egyptian, or African boxing...That is something that gets misappropriated in a big way.

        But these forms of fighting were recorded. Boxing is depicted in Egyptian reliefs and there are accounts of it in the Middle Kingdom writings of soldgers coming back from wars against the Nubian empires. This is common knowledge.

        Your contention that the Brits brought fist fighting to Nigeria is laughable. And your chauvanism about Britian is amusing. Your also talking about a much later period of history. Do you think all these places that the colonial empire went, did not have things? Are you aware of all the Indian Martial Arts traditions? some of which can actually be taught today? Or did the good ole Brits bring combat to those savages as well?

        I do you a favor, whether you are too ****** to realize it, or not, when I assume your perspective is born of a rash lack of understanding... God help you if it is not.

        You fly in here and make these assertions lol. Africa is a complex tribal entity...Tribal iden****** that all had fighting traditions because they fought with each other. Those fighting forms may have been institutionalized in a different way, and they may not be able to be taught as an art anymore, because the specific knowledge has not been passed down, and this is where the casuals make the error... It does not mean they did not exist and that their history is not known.
        OK, I see what you were trying to say.

        This really isn't the thread to have this discussion. But I will say that Nigeria was only a British colony. And they were as Zulu as Spanish are Russians.

        It's absolutely true that all people around the world engage in combat; often unarmed combat, as well. But the most obvious origin for this Nigerian style would be British.

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        • Rusty Tromboni
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          #164
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
          Dambe traces back centuries, long before the British ever showed up.

          You're not very bright, are you?
          Prove it.

          I'm smart enough to own property across the country and make more money in 10 years than you'll ever dream of earning.

          It all comes from seeing through the bull**** goons like you buy into.

          The same thing was done with livestock... Arabian Horses used in horse racing aren't really Arabian.

          They're not just selling the product, they're selling the story.

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            #165
            Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
            Why do you do this to yourself? You tell lies and twist the truth to appear relevant. But you're a g*****. A ratchet g*****.

            Just admit your boy started clamoring for a title shot he had no business asking for.
            Oh really? Care to read up on it




            Essentially the last of the bare-knuckle heavyweight champions, John L. Sullivan was instrumental in the acceptance of gloved fighting. His charisma and popular appeal during this transitional period contributed greatly to making boxing a nationally popular, "legitimate" sport. Sullivan became boxing's first superstar and arguably the first of any sport. From his first match in the late 1870s through his final championship fight in 1892, this biography contains a thoroughly researched, detailed accounting of John L. Sullivan's boxing career. With special attention to the 1880s, the decade during which Sullivan came to prominence, it follows Sullivan's skill development and discusses his opponents and fights in detail, providing various viewpoints of a single event. Beginning with a discussion of early boxing practices, the sport itself is placed within sociological, legal and historical contexts including anti-prize fighting laws and the so-called "color line." A complete record of Sullivan's career is also included.




            I wonder why they were calling Sully a coward. Hmmm.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #166
              Originally posted by travestyny
              Oh really? Care to read up on it




              Essentially the last of the bare-knuckle heavyweight champions, John L. Sullivan was instrumental in the acceptance of gloved fighting. His charisma and popular appeal during this transitional period contributed greatly to making boxing a nationally popular, "legitimate" sport. Sullivan became boxing's first superstar and arguably the first of any sport. From his first match in the late 1870s through his final championship fight in 1892, this biography contains a thoroughly researched, detailed accounting of John L. Sullivan's boxing career. With special attention to the 1880s, the decade during which Sullivan came to prominence, it follows Sullivan's skill development and discusses his opponents and fights in detail, providing various viewpoints of a single event. Beginning with a discussion of early boxing practices, the sport itself is placed within sociological, legal and historical contexts including anti-prize fighting laws and the so-called "color line." A complete record of Sullivan's career is also included.




              I wonder why they were calling Sully a coward. Hmmm.
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              • travestyny
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                #167
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - -Page unavailable...
                It's not unavailable. Open your eyes, pops. I posted it for you right there.

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                • Marchegiano
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                  #168
                  Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                  - -U aced the "U don't think" part magnificently, but blathering about undocumented Ethiopians migrating all the way to Greece without leaving a record save your fantasy pure bunkum.

                  The areas of what is now the states of Ethiopia and Kenya the earliest traceable origins of hominids that ultimately became mankind that spread across N Africa before migrating via the then Suez isthmus 100k years ago.

                  The first weapon appears in SAfrica over 2 mil yrs ago via hominids that mysteriously appear without a trace.

                  Ain't no weakling 80 lb hominids driving off a pride of lions feasting on a fresh kill clubs or not. Yeah, even U could drive off the post scavenger buzzards without weapons, big whoop-whoop!

                  The fact that Ethiopians had friezes depicting proto boxers in ancient times as they became empires is irrefutable.

                  What is refutable is your nonsense. I'm talking basic instincts that can be demonstrated in many untrained very young children whereas U gab about perceptions of stinkability logic.
                  Women do it presently, unarmed.

                  You don't know what you're talking about, get Combat Sports in the Ancient World: Competition, Violence, and Culture



                  Or sports and spectacle or Athletics in the ancient world

                  I'm not telling you unfounded, controversial, or improper info.....you're just a ****** **** who is struggling to align your Nat Geo Documentary knowledge and Wiki to some proper research.

                  **** even your posts are contradictory as ****.


                  Let me clear for both you and Rusty, y'all are ****ing dumb people. I already know you have no academic anything to brag about in your life by the way you act. STFU and learn something FFS. Always a ****ing pissing contest with you morons because you think nit picking is good ****ing idea.

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by billeau2
                    You beat me to it... The notion that humans were ambush predators has to at the very least, be qualified. Animals do not set traps to lead a quarry... We are not fast, strong, or instincive enough to ambush much of anything, and we probably never have been. What we are is noodle users! the noodle in our heads.
                    Hey man, kinda unrelated, I'm having my first baby so I'm just doing this stuff when I can.

                    I'll write out the last of it probably today or tomorrow, depending on taco runs She likes tacos right now. And McDonalds nuggets. It's a huge pain in the ass and I'd rather not during a pandemic, but, girls gotta grow my baby so I'm not fussed.


                    Far as Queens goes. I'm not even really sure what his issue is, but, I have noticed he, nor Rusty who loves to follow my ass around, will not even attempt to explain where Greek warfare came from.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by travestyny
                      Oh really? Care to read up on it




                      Essentially the last of the bare-knuckle heavyweight champions, John L. Sullivan was instrumental in the acceptance of gloved fighting. His charisma and popular appeal during this transitional period contributed greatly to making boxing a nationally popular, "legitimate" sport. Sullivan became boxing's first superstar and arguably the first of any sport. From his first match in the late 1870s through his final championship fight in 1892, this biography contains a thoroughly researched, detailed accounting of John L. Sullivan's boxing career. With special attention to the 1880s, the decade during which Sullivan came to prominence, it follows Sullivan's skill development and discusses his opponents and fights in detail, providing various viewpoints of a single event. Beginning with a discussion of early boxing practices, the sport itself is placed within sociological, legal and historical contexts including anti-prize fighting laws and the so-called "color line." A complete record of Sullivan's career is also included.




                      I wonder why they were calling Sully a coward. Hmmm.
                      Came right up for me....I suspect ****ery on their part.

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