Could Wilder have bombed it out with Rid**** Bowe?

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    #31
    Deontay Wilder has ONE shot, his entire offense depends on ONE SHOT the big right hand 'That is just not enough, to favor him over any of the past great champions'.

    Wilder's power is also overrated, 2 years ago? Nobody was declaring him the hardest hitting heavyweight of all-time, this notion suddenly went into overdrive in 2019 'Wilder is a terrible fighter to back, head to head in most historical match ups'.

    If Deontay Wilder is not landing that ONE SHOT from range against a fighter? The odds are is that he is being out boxed & beaten up 'Just imagine of Fury was hitting with the force of Lennox Lewis, in his rematch against Wilder' It would be a total destruction.

    Wider would be all over the show vs Rid**** Bowe, it would be a similar fight to Fury vs Wilder 2 'But increasingly more violent'.
    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 03-16-2020, 05:43 PM.

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      #32
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
      Deontay Wilder has ONE shot, his entire offense depends on ONE SHOT the big right hand 'That is just not enough, to favor him over any of the past great champions'.

      Wilder's power is also overrated, 2 years ago? Nobody was declaring him the hardest hitting heavyweight of all-time, this notion suddenly went into overdrive in 2019 'Wilder is a terrible fighter to back, head to head in most historical match ups'.

      If Deontay Wilder is not landing that ONE SHOT from range against a fighter? The odds are is that he is being out boxed & beaten up 'Just imagine of Fury was hitting with the force of Lennox Lewis, in his rematch against Wilder' It would be a total destruction.

      Wider would be all over the show vs Rid**** Bowe, it would be a similar fight to Fury vs Wilder 2 'But increasingly more violent'.
      Fury is much bigger than Bowe and has s kevlar jaw.

      Bowe's an easy target. Guys who run at Wilder get starched.

      You need to Box him to win rounds. Bowe can't do that.

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      • them_apples
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        #33
        Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
        Yeah, I'd say that.


        If I were re.tarded.

        You know who talked like that?

        The guy who picked Sullivan to beat Corbett.

        The guy who picked Fitz to beat Jeffries.

        The guy who picked Johnson to beat Willard

        The guy who picked Dempsey to beat Tunney.

        The guy who picked Baer to beat Louis.

        The guy who picked Patterson to beat Ingo.

        The guy who picked Liston to beat Clay.

        The guy who picked Frazier to veat Foreman.

        The guy who picked Ali to beat Norton.

        The guy who picked Holmes to beat Tyson.

        You see where we're going with this?

        Fact: Wilder proved more ability and grit in his two losses to Fury than Bowe proved in his entite career.

        Can you imagine Ginzalez or Mathis surviving more than two Rounds against Wilder!? Golota!?

        Bowe needed over 30 rounds to FINALLY put away a Cruiserweight. Let's not forget that included Big Belly Bowe getting out-Boxed by a guy with half the skill or size of Fury... and at least Wilder sent Fury to the cavas twice.

        It's funny. No one arguing for Wilder is drumming up his competition - it's his performances against them that matter. Conversely, the clowns celebrating Bowe are trying to make him into a Heavyweight Harry Greb, but downplaying his performances.

        For you downlow boiz who like 90s Urban culuture there's a song I'd like to reference:
        Things that make you go Hmmmmm?
        how is he gritty? he's about as gritty as Connor Mcgregor, just cause you don't go down or openly quit doesn't mean you aren't
        communicating to the ref to stop the fight with your body language. Wilder wasn't fighting back, he just wasn't getting hit quite hard enough to be put out cold cause fury isn't a huge puncher. Wilder was begging for the fight to be stopped, just like Mcgregor was. He was in over his head.

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        • them_apples
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          #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
          Deontay Wilder has ONE shot, his entire offense depends on ONE SHOT the big right hand 'That is just not enough, to favor him over any of the past great champions'.

          Wilder's power is also overrated, 2 years ago? Nobody was declaring him the hardest hitting heavyweight of all-time, this notion suddenly went into overdrive in 2019 'Wilder is a terrible fighter to back, head to head in most historical match ups'.

          If Deontay Wilder is not landing that ONE SHOT from range against a fighter? The odds are is that he is being out boxed & beaten up 'Just imagine of Fury was hitting with the force of Lennox Lewis, in his rematch against Wilder' It would be a total destruction.

          Wider would be all over the show vs Rid**** Bowe, it would be a similar fight to Fury vs Wilder 2 'But increasingly more violent'.
          the second bowe gets Wilder on the ropes it would be a one sided merciless beat down, I could see a 1 or 2 round stoppage depending on how much respect Bowe gives wilder.

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            #35
            I like Wilder, but Boss would smash him.

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              #36
              Originally posted by them_apples
              how is he gritty? he's about as gritty as Connor Mcgregor, just cause you don't go down or openly quit doesn't mean you aren't
              communicating to the ref to stop the fight with your body language. Wilder wasn't fighting back, he just wasn't getting hit quite hard enough to be put out cold cause fury isn't a huge puncher. Wilder was begging for the fight to be stopped, just like Mcgregor was. He was in over his head.
              The kinda stuff said by people who've never been in a fight...

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                #37
                Originally posted by JAB5239
                I like Wilder, but Boss would smash him.
                Like he smashed... ?

                What performance by Deep Fried matches anything Wilder's done?

                He got schooled by a Cruiserweight!

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                • them_apples
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                  The kinda stuff said by people who've never been in a fight...
                  A man who truly doesn't quit will fight back and Wilder wasn't fighting back.

                  My boxing record has nothing to do with this or how many fights I've been in, this isn't them_apples vs Wilder.

                  I bet you got popped in the nose one time and quit so you think everyone else would do the same. Wrong! There's a choice you gotta make right then and there and that is dictated by your character. This plays it's part in every role in life not just physical fighting.


                  Sometimes you fail and all you learn from it is to run from that failure. Sometimes you fail and you use it to take another run at it with a new strategy. What dictates a man's choices are a product of nature and environment.

                  Some fighters character is to fight back even under the most dire circumstances. They may have always been that way or possibly grew into that person. Either way it's a tangible part of the brain even if we haven't discovered it yet, whatever a thought process looks like on paper.

                  It's probably the most overlooked attribute in boxing, even though every great champion always possessed it. If a fighter tries for 5 rounds and has less talent than a fighter who only tries for 4, the odds start to shift into the less talented fighters favor.

                  I'd say the majority of Ali's fights in his later career were won that way. Not that you would consider this a good example, as you seem to have little to no respect for Ali.

                  Psychology is such a huge factor in boxing, I believe it was cus d Amato that said it made up 80 percent of what determines a winner. And that unless the skill gap is so great and the will is untested, a match is largely a test of wills. Clearly Fury has more will power than Wilder, it's got nothing to do with how big he is. He's been dropped by cruiserweights. Fury got knocked out cold by Wilder and still got up and beat him lol.
                  Last edited by them_apples; 03-18-2020, 08:03 PM.

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                  • Rusty Tromboni
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by them_apples
                    A man who truly doesn't quit will fight back and Wilder wasn't fighting back.

                    My boxing record has nothing to do with this or how many fights I've been in, this isn't them_apples vs Wilder.

                    I bet you got popped in the nose one time and quit so you think everyone else would do the same. Wrong! There's a choice you gotta make right then and there and that is dictated by your character. This plays it's part in every role in life not just physical fighting.


                    Sometimes you fail and all you learn from it is to run from that failure. Sometimes you fail and you use it to take another run at it with a new strategy. What dictates a man's choices are a product of nature and environment.

                    Some fighters character is to fight back even under the most dire circumstances. They may have always been that way or possibly grew into that person. Either way it's a tangible part of the brain even if we haven't discovered it yet, whatever a thought process looks like on paper.

                    It's probably the most overlooked attribute in boxing, even though every great champion always possessed it. If a fighter tries for 5 rounds and has less talent than a fighter who only tries for 4, the odds start to shift into the less talented fighters favor.

                    I'd say the majority of Ali's fights in his later career were won that way. Not that you would consider this a good example, as you seem to have little to no respect for Ali.

                    Psychology is such a huge factor in boxing, I believe it was cus d Amato that said it made up 80 percent of what determines a winner. And that unless the skill gap is so great and the will is untested, a match is largely a test of wills. Clearly Fury has more will power than Wilder, it's got nothing to do with how big he is. He's been dropped by cruiserweights. Fury got knocked out cold by Wilder and still got up and beat him lol.
                    It's cute watching kids pretend to be adults.

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                    • them_apples
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                      It's cute watching kids pretend to be adults.
                      I'm 30 lol I just look young

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