Could Wilder have bombed it out with Rid**** Bowe?

[billeau2]

Good comments! Bowe had a lot in his tool kit, he could also destroy opponents, like he did to Gonzalez. This might make a big difference here. Wilder could not lose rounds against Bowe...Bowe would make him pay, hitting him inside, to the body, etc. Wilder tends to take off rounds and stay on his front foot, covering up, taking a shot here and there. He did this against Ortiz twice and twice was losing. Ortiz could not pressure him aside from winning the rounds.

Bowe would not allow Wilder to do this.

[ShoulderRoll]

Rid**** Bowe had a relatively deep boxing skillset thanks to Eddie Futch.

It would be more than enough to beat Wilder who is pretty one dimensional.

[NChristo-]

Yeah, we never saw him laid out. And he never folded to attrition. So I went overboard if I insinuated he's soft. But Fury was beating the brakes off Wilder, and he didn't want out of the fight.

Undersized Holyfield brought the fight to Bowe, and Bowe (although victorious) was never the same again. Let's not forget he almost always fought men whom he towered over.

I certainly can't envision Bowe taking any number of Wilder's widowmakers.

He took combinations below the belt from Golota for the entire fight until Golota pretty much gave up because he couldn't hurt Bowe. Bowe was losing the fight obviously / doing poorly and won only because of his grit, sorry but if Wilder doesn't put Bowe out with some kind of miraculous right hand the first time he throws it then prime Bowe isn't getting knocked out by Wilder especially since he can't fight on the backfoot at all. Which is where he'd be for all this fight, he can't brawl with Bowe that's for sure.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Rid**** Bowe had a relatively deep boxing skillset thanks to Eddie Futch.

It would be more than enough to beat Wilder who is pretty one dimensional.

Eddie Futch was a solid trainer. Probably as good as you vould be without being great. But what's his track record?
Where modt trainers are like Port which improves with time, Futch was like honey: he got no better nor no worse.

He's famous more for fighters who put up a valiant effort in losing, rathet than great wins.

That's Bowe's fate. He wasn't a Ray Leinsrd or Napoles. He definitely couldn't Box like Fury, or bore in like Tyson.


I see Bowe doing better than Ortiz but worse than Fury in the rematch.

[Rusty Tromboni]

He took combinations below the belt from Golota for the entire fight until Golota pretty much gave up because he couldn't hurt Bowe. Bowe was losing the fight obviously / doing poorly and won only because of his grit, sorry but if Wilder doesn't put Bowe out with some kind of miraculous right hand the first time he throws it then prime Bowe isn't getting knocked out by Wilder especially since he can't fight on the backfoot at all. Which is where he'd be for all this fight, he can't brawl with Bowe that's for sure.

So you're citing his exceptional impression as a Punching Bag for why he should be able to pull off a Tyson Fury style beatdown?

Why not call him the Second-coming of Willie Pep while we're at it?

[Rusty Tromboni]

Really if anyone wants an idea of how this plays out, revisit Ingo vs. Machen and Ingo vs. Patterson

[them_apples]

He was using his double jab well against Fury.

And that lazy jab disguises his right hand well.

Bowe was a sucker for the jab.


But then Bowe liked to get inside and make it nasty.

It's a tough call. Bowe gets handicapped because he's no longer the bigger man with the bigger punch.

Wilder is also more focused.


It's a fight I'd pay good money to see.

You forgot the part that Bowe is superior in every single category than Wilder outside of the right hand, if that even. We haven't seen him spark anyone that Bowe wouldn't have done just as easily.

Wilders jab won't be hitting anything but air because he doesn't know how to throw one. This fights over fast and Bowe walks through him, takes perhaps a good right in the process but isn't anywhere close to being put to sleep.

[ShoulderRoll]

Eddie Futch was a solid trainer. Probably as good as you vould be without being great. But what's his track record?

He only developed 22 world champions.

Stick to touch butt wrestling, kid.

[QueensburyRules]

- -As previously mentioned, neither of these pretenders had the stones to face the best of his era, but they could grab their crotches and spew thuggery at each other for their fan base.

[Rusty Tromboni]

He only developed 22 world champions.

Stick to touch butt wrestling, kid.

Yeah, across 400 years and how many divisions and how many alphabet soup organizations?


Clancy, Arcel, Dundee, Gore, Lomachenko... these are examples of great trainers.

We honestly didn't see anything great from Bowe. He beat subpar competition just like Wilder, but needed more punches to do the same thing.

He's become like Marciano, where it's just accepted that he'll beat everyone without any supporting reason.