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Ali vs. Wilt Chamberlin
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Originally posted by LondonRingRules** Obviously you don't think. Valuev has a 71%KO ratio, very good. KO% is more than power. You have to have enough speed and intelligence to catch up to a fighter and penetrate his defense. You really should study up.
Regardless, Wilt was the superior athlete and very competitive. The fact that D'amato was willing to train him speaks volumes and Ali was serious enough to have a contract drawn up. That's why the thread started.
And I don't agree that Wilt is the superior athlete. Wasn't Ali voted athlete of the century? BTW, I'm not saying this thread is pointless, I'm saying suggesting Wilt could win is absurd.
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Originally posted by LondonRingRules** Luckily, nobody wants you to pose for anything.
Wilt was more than a Jordan. He was an all-state HS track star, competing in high jump, 400M, and shotput, not a fatboy Shaq. Cus D'amato took Wilt under his tutelage and trained him for the fight. Cus wouldn't have wasted his time if Wilt had no talent. Cus said he was not training Wilt to be a boxer, but to beat one man in the ring with size, strength, reach, and a set up.
Shame the fight never came off. Different versions of why, but basically Wilt said it boiled down to money and a shaky contract. It would have been great spectacle, and guaranteed Wilt is strong enough and coordinated enough to KO anyone if he connected. Ali would have his hands full early as this was no Cleveland Williams or Brian London.
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Originally posted by hellfire508And I don't agree that Wilt is the superior athlete. Wasn't Ali voted athlete of the century? BTW, I'm not saying this thread is pointless, I'm saying suggesting Wilt could win is absurd.
I'm not suggesting that Wilt would win, but rather stating that D'amato thought Wilt could win with the right training and gameplan. Just the facts, plainly stated.Last edited by LondonRingRules; 08-06-2006, 03:04 AM.
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Originally posted by LondonRingRules** Athlete of the century? That beauty contest went to Michael Jordan who proved he wasn't a good enough athlete to compete as a pro in baseball and golf, 2 sports he'd die and give up all his NBA titles for.
I'm not suggesting that Wilt would win, but rather stating that D'amato thought Wilt could win with the right training and gameplan. Just the facts, plainly stated.
OK, I still dont think he could win.
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Wilt is in totally over his head here. He would get blown apart by Williams, Quarry, Chuvalo, and yes even a guy like Brian London without the same background as these guys. You wouldn't put some genius straight out of the trailer park with a 180 IQ in with a bunch of rocket scientests and expect him to do comparable work would you? I don't care a person's raw potential, without the background and experience so neccesary in a sport like boxing, he will get killed. Now give Wilt 4 years of training and professional experience and we're talking a COMPLETELY different fight. 6-8 month is just not enough time to give him any chance at all.
I wouldn't even give him a puncher's chance because there's no guarantee the guy can even punch. We just don't know enough about Wilt Chamberlain the fighter to give him any hope of succeeding in this mountainous task of dethroning one of the all time heavyweight greats.
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Originally posted by LondonRingRulesThe fact that D'amato was willing to train him speaks volumes
Just think of the possibilities that lay before Cus the Guru...
George Foreman vs Joe Namath
Joe Frazier vs Jack Nicklaus
Sonny Liston vs Mickey MantleLast edited by SABBATH; 08-07-2006, 11:48 AM.
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Originally posted by LondonRingRulesAli would have his hands full early as this was no Cleveland Williams or Brian London.
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Originally posted by LondonRingRules** Athlete of the century? That beauty contest went to Michael Jordan who proved he wasn't a good enough athlete to compete as a pro in baseball and golf, 2 sports he'd die and give up all his NBA titles for.
I'm not suggesting that Wilt would win, but rather stating that D'amato thought Wilt could win with the right training and gameplan. Just the facts, plainly stated.
GOLF
I have enough problems with people in the media saying Tiger Woods is on the same level or better than Babe Ruth, Ali, Jordan, etc. I was Ok with them saying he is the "Ruth" of his sport, but when they started to say he could be possibly the best and most dominate athlete of all time, WTF.
I don't have anything against golf when it comes to how hard it is as a game, but I will do what most people do, wait till I am retired, 65, and want to get away from the wife.Last edited by Abe Attell; 09-18-2006, 06:43 PM.
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