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  • Hard Boiled HK
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    #21
    Originally posted by LondonRingRules
    ** Luckily, nobody wants you to pose for anything.

    Wilt was more than a Jordan. He was an all-state HS track star, competing in high jump, 400M, and shotput, not a fatboy Shaq. Cus D'amato took Wilt under his tutelage and trained him for the fight. Cus wouldn't have wasted his time if Wilt had no talent. Cus said he was not training Wilt to be a boxer, but to beat one man in the ring with size, strength, reach, and a set up.

    Shame the fight never came off. Different versions of why, but basically Wilt said it boiled down to money and a shaky contract. It would have been great spectacle, and guaranteed Wilt is strong enough and coordinated enough to KO anyone if he connected. Ali would have his hands full early as this was no Cleveland Williams or Brian London.
    And also, Ali would have no idea how Chamberlain fights.

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    • boski
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      #22
      Originally posted by LondonRingRules
      ** Luckily, nobody wants you to pose for anything.

      Wilt was more than a Jordan. He was an all-state HS track star, competing in high jump, 400M, and shotput, not a fatboy Shaq. Cus D'amato took Wilt under his tutelage and trained him for the fight. Cus wouldn't have wasted his time if Wilt had no talent. Cus said he was not training Wilt to be a boxer, but to beat one man in the ring with size, strength, reach, and a set up.

      Shame the fight never came off. Different versions of why, but basically Wilt said it boiled down to money and a shaky contract. It would have been great spectacle, and guaranteed Wilt is strong enough and coordinated enough to KO anyone if he connected. Ali would have his hands full early as this was no Cleveland Williams or Brian London.
      Ali would have destroyed him in less than 1 round. You are clueless if you believe otherwise.

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      • LondonRingRules
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        #23
        Originally posted by boski
        Ali would have destroyed him in less than 1 round. You are clueless if you believe otherwise.
        ... and you are simply clueless in every situation, though certainly glueful in every situation.

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          #24
          Originally posted by LondonRingRules
          ** Luckily, nobody wants you to pose for anything.

          Wilt was more than a Jordan. He was an all-state HS track star, competing in high jump, 400M, and shotput, not a fatboy Shaq. Cus D'amato took Wilt under his tutelage and trained him for the fight. Cus wouldn't have wasted his time if Wilt had no talent. Cus said he was not training Wilt to be a boxer, but to beat one man in the ring with size, strength, reach, and a set up.

          Shame the fight never came off. Different versions of why, but basically Wilt said it boiled down to money and a shaky contract. It would have been great spectacle, and guaranteed Wilt is strong enough and coordinated enough to KO anyone if he connected. Ali would have his hands full early as this was no Cleveland Williams or Brian London.
          What makes you think Wilt could KO anyone? Strength and punching power are two totally different things. Look at Valuev, he is extremely strong, but doesn't punch hard at all. Then you have someone like Dempsey, who was fairly strong, but hit f**king hard. It comes down to technique, and I guess natural ability too. Even if he had coordination, it takes years of training to develop the correct technique, to throw a devastating, accurate punch that the likes of Tommy Hearns could throw. No first fight novice, would beat Ali in a boxing match, I don't care WHO it is.

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            #25
            And also, Ali would have no idea how Chamberlain fights.
            SO? Who says Chamberlin could fight at all? Even if he could it won't take Ali long to figure out.

            This thread is a joke.

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              #26
              It would have been great spectacle,
              Indeed, big wilt flattened in 1.

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              • LondonRingRules
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                #27
                Originally posted by hellfire508
                What makes you think Wilt could KO anyone? Strength and punching power are two totally different things. Look at Valuev, he is extremely strong, but doesn't punch hard at all. Then you have someone like Dempsey, who was fairly strong, but hit f**king hard. It comes down to technique, and I guess natural ability too. Even if he had coordination, it takes years of training to develop the correct technique, to throw a devastating, accurate punch that the likes of Tommy Hearns could throw. No first fight novice, would beat Ali in a boxing match, I don't care WHO it is.
                ** Obviously you don't think. Valuev has a 71%KO ratio, very good. KO% is more than power. You have to have enough speed and intelligence to catch up to a fighter and penetrate his defense. You really should study up.

                Regardless, Wilt was the superior athlete and very competitive. The fact that D'amato was willing to train him speaks volumes and Ali was serious enough to have a contract drawn up. That's why the thread started.

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                  #28
                  Wilt doesn't have a chance, Ali faced and destroyed talented boxers who were trained from an early age by great trainers. They were experienced and lived by the sport.

                  I don't care how good an athlete he was because Ali was a great athlete too. He could go 15 rounds all the time, and going 15 rounds with Frazier is harder than playing basketball or running.

                  So D'Amto training a basketball player isn't that impressive vs Angelo Dundee's champ.

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                    #29
                    if wilt had such potential to become a boxer dont u think thats what he woulda ended up doing?? he didnt, so that speaks for itself, back then basketball players werent making so much as they do today, the fight woulda went like that great white hype movie minus the white hype lol, wilt woulda wanted to fight ali not the other way around, cause of the big payday u got when u fought ali..

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                    • LondonRingRules
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sleazyfellow
                      if wilt had such potential to become a boxer dont u think thats what he woulda ended up doing?? he didnt, so that speaks for itself, back then basketball players werent making so much as they do today, the fight woulda went like that great white hype movie minus the white hype lol, wilt woulda wanted to fight ali not the other way around, cause of the big payday u got when u fought ali..
                      ** Wilt was making as much or more than Ali back in the 60s. You really should study up. Wilt said Ali's team sprang a new contract that didn't pay Wilt enough to endanger a season of basketball if he got hurt so Wilt killed the deal.

                      In school he was such a physical phenom that he was directed into BB and track/field. Had Ali been so physically gifted, so would he have been. Ali got into boxing by accident.

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