Dempsey vs. Frazier

[Rusty Tromboni]

One of the tougher fights to forecast. One thing that does seem crystal clear is that Dempsey will have to win early to win at all. Once Joe is chugging and warmed up he has more stamina than a plow horse. This might happen as Dempsey begins to tire and slow.

NOTE: It is a tacit policy of mythical matchups that both fighters enter the ring in their primes and at their best, unless otherwise stated. It eliminates speculation that ol' & so might not have trained up to the match.

Therefore, in this match it is the Frazier who beat Clay versus the Dempsey that beat Willard.

That's a good point.

Frazier's real advantage here is his size and experience (maybe), everything else belongs to Dempsey. But there is such a thing as "too much of a good thing". Bootylicious Joe Frazier doesn't want to be too heavy with Dempsey. The guy who beat Machen up to the guy who beat Ali is who we're looking at.

I really like watching Frazier and Armstrong, but they are SOOO open to uppercuts. And Frazier starting slow, lacking one-punch KO power, and having a bob-n-weave designed to infiltrate stright punches, all work against him here. Also, he is sloppy compared to Dempsey, he does get a little loose and wild as the fight progresses and his opponents fade.

Lots of guys hurt Frazier. The problem was they were afraid to press the issue, preferring to use the opportunity to reset and refresh. That speaks to Joe's strength and relentlessness. He was one of the best at recupperating that I have ever seen. He really knew hot to "stay alive". But Dempsey's offense is insane. His footwork and head-movement are far suprerior. He's the exact OPPOSITE of the fighter Frazier excelled against.

[Mrsantiago]

- -U no have Father?

I’m your father ask your mom who I am.

[Mrsantiago]

It's cute how you keep trying.

But still, we'd all be better off if it ended for you in a warm saline bath.

You know what would be even better if you met up with me and said that to my face. How bout that??

[ecto55]

For what it's worth (we all know about the rose-tinted glasses effect), its almost universal among the old timers that I've read about (Marty Cohen for example is one I can specifically recall, but others like Fleischer etc) that Dempsey would beat any other Hvy swarmer such as Marciano and Frazier.

Dempsey must have been something incredibly special to make such an impression on so many men, who being of that era and the experiences of those times (1890's depression, 1930's depression, two world wars etc), just didn't seem as impressionable as the guffs we have today.

[Rusty Tromboni]

You know what would be even better if you met up with me and said that to my face. How bout that??

I've made bigger, tougher boys than you squeal.

Believe me, when you can get recruited by colleges for Wrestling, then you can talk sh.it about how tough you are.

I don't need to fight. I have a dozen kids at the gym I could run through you.

Don't be mad. You sh.it on the rug. So I rubbed your nose in it. Learn your lesson and move on.

[QueensburyRules]

I’m your father ask your mom who I am.

- -That'd make you older than a Roman fart still hanging around the colosseum.

[Mrsantiago]

I've made bigger, tougher boys than you squeal.

Believe me, when you can get recruited by colleges for Wrestling, then you can talk sh.it about how tough you are.

I don't need to fight. I have a dozen kids at the gym I could run through you.

Don't be mad. You sh.it on the rug. So I rubbed your nose in it. Learn your lesson and move on.

Wrestling huh? No wonder you don’t know **** about boxing.
Also I don’t need help I’ll comb your head myself.

Also I don’t believe you why don’t you prove it in person. Talk is cheap just like these fantasy fights your going off for and ... I know exactly why you and your other little boyfriend who doesn’t know **** about boxing either are being disrespectful over an opinion online but that’s another story.

[ShoulderRoll]

Wrestling huh? No wonder you don’t know **** about boxing.
Also I don’t need help I’ll comb your head myself.

Also I don’t believe you why don’t you prove it in person. Talk is cheap just like these fantasy fights your going off for and ... I know exactly why you and your other little boyfriend who doesn’t know **** about boxing either are being disrespectful over an opinion online but that’s another story.

Tromboni is a moron. He is an expert on wrestling "oil checks" but knows next to nothing about boxing.

If he was humble about his views maybe we could give him a pass. But instead he goes around loudly and arrogantly spreading his worthless opinions.

The kid is little more than a braying jackass.

[billeau2]

Tromboni is a moron. He is an expert on wrestling "oil checks" but knows next to nothing about boxing.

If he was humble about his views maybe we could give him a pass. But instead he goes around loudly and arrogantly spreading his worthless opinions.

The kid is little more than a braying jackass.

I always though that was an oil can check...

And people often refer to Mongolian wrestling? Let me tell you something You have not lived until you have seen a Mongoloid wrestling match! Its truly rough and tumble... Sweat, blood and chromosomes flying everywhere!!!

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wrestling huh? No wonder you don’t know **** about boxing.
Also I don’t need help I’ll comb your head myself.

Also I don’t believe you why don’t you prove it in person. Talk is cheap just like these fantasy fights your going off for and ... I know exactly why you and your other little boyfriend who doesn’t know **** about boxing either are being disrespectful over an opinion online but that’s another story.

Hahaha, that's the funny thing. Punks like you never believed it. But you believe in Jesus. Funny thing is, for all your praying, Jesus never comes to save you. But you DO eat the Alpo, drink the dirty toilet water. Always.

Don't be upset. Back in the good old days, I'd own you. Your family would be my property. Now my taxes keep you alive.

Tromboni is a moron.

Says the cum-guzzler whom I school weekly.

Show me where I am wrong pha.gyt. Please, in all your idiotic posts, show me where once I was the one who got it wrong, and you got it right.