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You DKSAB and now its getting boring correcting you so go ahead like all little kids and have the last word because im done repeating myself. There are a few guys on here who know boxing and your taking away my time speaking to adult REAL boxing fans. See ya and have a great(so fricken glad its not my) life. Im sure you know ALL about chickens lol.Comment
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I've hardly ever spent money on boxing actually. If it's not a seriously big fight I'm not paying for it.
Not really a boycott just paying for what I like. If it's free I want to see most matches. If I gotta pay it's gotta be some **** like Wilder-Fury.
Pretty sure outside of Wilder the last time I paid for boxing was Ward or Mayweather's fights. A while ago for sure.
That said, boxing doesn't give a **** about hardcore fans. It's casuals who make the majority of their money. I don't think the industry would even notice a boycott. A very vocal force via social media may be better.
I would join you in the demand for better boxing.
I don't mean to be a ****, but, that's just not true at all. There's a whole lot less BS, boxing is much more fair now with sanctioning bodies than it was with 'lineal' champions alone....who, most of em, had never heard the term lineal their entire lives.
One of the last lineal champions prior to bodies vacated his title, awarded it to another, then came back and stripped a whole lineage, multiple title exchanges since his departure and return, without doing anything more than making an announcement.
Not a single champion today can or will be stripped because Lennox Lewis wants money.
That sort of **** is beyond the sort of **** the bodies pull.
Lineal is the era of fixed fights, crowd interference, conspiracies, systemic racism, gang/gun violence, and all sorts of other absolutely absurd BS to even consider in the modern era.
If the fix a fight they'd better cover their asses. In the olden they just told you X was never meant to win.
If Joshua was fighting Fury today in London and a whole bunch of travelers piled in the ring and stomped the **** out of Joshua we'd stop that match. Not force Josh to continue so that Fury can land a squat and call it a KO.
Long gone are the days of " I object to fighting a colored man"
Mendoza lost his title because the aristos wanted a christian champion. Conspiracy was hatched but since everyone hated The *** there was no reason to hide it.....lineal.
Yankee Sullivan beat the ever living **** out of John Morrissey. If you look up their records though you'll see Morrissey won by TKO. That's because Morrissey's gang was around the ring with pistols on the ready. Yankee was told before the fight if he wins he's dead. So Yanks beats the **** out of John, knocks him to the ground and before the ref begins his counts promptly walks the **** outta the building forcing the ref to call time on him rather than the sunken bloody mess Old Smoke was left in.
Jem Ward paid his way to the title, fought no one, and when his challenger rose up Ward retired, allowed said challenger to win his vacant title, then stripped the challenger and announced his return. He did not fight, he just took absurd amounts of coin to fight the challenger then retired. Repeatedly. He also got the man he paid to lose to him for the title to fight the challenger, that man was killed. The challenger did not know the man he was fighting is more WWE and less boxing so he boxed the poor SOB and killed him. Not even that could get control back from Jem Ward. He was still champion.
let's go to the beginning:
James 'The First' Figg - 1719
Robert 'The Pugilist' Whittaker - 1725
Nathaniel Peartree - 1726
John Gritton - 1727
Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730
Bill Gretting - 1730
Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1730
Bill Gretting - 1732
Tom 'The Claimant' Pipes - 1733
George 'The Barber' Taylor - 1734
Jack 'The Father of Boxing' Broughton - 1736
Jack 'The Norfolk Butcher' Slack - 1750
All fixed fights. All fighters came from the same camp, same promoter, same manager, same venue, same everything AND the outcomes were predicted and told to the public by the master of said venue.
Kinda, well covered the middle before the beginning, Mendoza's 1780s Yankee is 1850s. Spring (crowds winning fights for you) like 1820s and Ward was like end of 20 to 1830s....mid ish.
So let us get our asses into the later lineal era yeah?
Y'all done know John L refused black men. Godfrey and Jackson are the best names he doesn't have.
How about my good pal Peter Maher? You know Peter? The champion who won his title after Corbett retired? Was handed the title by Corbett himself only to be stripped of having ever been champion, for all of history so far, by Corbett just announcing his desire to be champion. No fight, just back from retirement so let's stripe the lineage that was formed after he left. None of it counts, we were just playing when Maher won the title, Corbett is champ until Bob whoops him. Not a, not former, the sole champion.
Oh, and the whole entire time, the challengers are whoever the **** the champ says is number one contender. Called it champions prerogative. It's really just pick your poison. Champs could and did claim certain men were on fit. Jem Ward used Englishness....against Deaf Burke because to be Deaf is very un-English. Classy. John L. used racism. Two thumbs.
I'd like to know what era prior to sanctioning bodies boasted a cleaner and more fair form of boxing than the sanctioned era.
The first sanctioned champion is Johnson...hmm....the first French title challenger comes post bodies, the first Italian and German champions come post bodies. Hmmm.
Italy been boxing since 1725, but, only got a champion when the English and American champions were no longer allowed to just pick English and American challengers to defend against.
I know people love to ***** about the bodies but let's not glorify the past as if it was better. It was dirty as ****.Comment
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Just another short reply.
Yes, I can see boxers like it, because several more can call themselves world champions. Or titlists of some kind. It has become easier to get rewarded for all the hard training you’ve gone through. (Me growing next to old, I’m not that upset by it anymore. The fighters do work hard, so if any belt makes them happy and motivated, why not?)
But, you can also argue from another point of view – those fighters that really deserve to be labeled world champions, have to share honors with less deserving ‘world champions’.
While several sanctioning bodies might be a good thing for the performers, it certainly isn’t for the sport.
Virtually every other sport is run by one ruling body. And what gives titles and medals credibility.Last edited by Ben Bolt; 09-14-2019, 03:10 PM.Comment
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