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  • How did Chuvalo have such a good chin despite being a small heavyweight ?

    George Chuvalo is considered by many to have the best chin of any heavyweight ever yet he was small for a heavyweight. Only about 6’ 210 pounds. Practically dwarfed even in his own era let alone today.

    On a side note, Shavers was about the same size and he had, according to many the biggest punch in the heavyweight division.

    How did they both have better chins and bigger punches than men twice their size ?

    Chris Byrd was about their size and he considered himself to be too small for heavyweight.

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    First off Byrd started at middleweight and worked his way up.In the sweet science size matters not when it comes to punching power and a chin .The division is full of big guys who had no punch or chin.Quarry would have been a cruiser weight if the division was around.He actually made a ill fated comeback at that weight.Quarry gave the hard punching Lyle his first loss who was being groomed for Foreman in his next fight or two.Same Lyle who is the only man to stand in front of Foreman and go toe to toe and take big George off his feet twice with brute power .George vs young and Ali who did more with complete fatigue to knock him down.Quarry took what shavers had to give and stopped him . It’s all apples and oranges.One of the best chins is Ali’s if you look at the monsters he fought.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dempsey19 View Post
      George Chuvalo is considered by many to have the best chin of any heavyweight ever yet he was small for a heavyweight. Only about 6’ 210 pounds. Practically dwarfed even in his own era let alone today.

      On a side note, Shavers was about the same size and he had, according to many the biggest punch in the heavyweight division.

      How did they both have better chins and bigger punches than men twice their size ?

      Chris Byrd was about their size and he considered himself to be too small for heavyweight.
      - -Turned pro at 18 at the current hvy limit, so how is that small?

      Took 19 yr old Ali a couple of years to get that big.

      Does this snapshot suggest the pantywaist you make him out to be?

      https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/George_Chuvalo

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      • #4
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
        - -Turned pro at 18 at the current hvy limit, so how is that small?

        Took 19 yr old Ali a couple of years to get that big.

        Does this snapshot suggest the pantywaist you make him out to be?

        https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/George_Chuvalo
        While he isn’t a small man he doesn’t look like much compared to a 6’6” 250 pounder now does he ?

        Same with Shavers.

        https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail...photo/52869308
        Last edited by Dempsey19; 07-27-2019, 04:44 AM.

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        • #5
          Mike Tyson was smaller than Chuvalo, does that mean in his prime he wouldn't have a chance against giants like Wlad and Joshua?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dempsey19 View Post
            While he isn’t a small man
            - -Ok, walkin' away from small makes you out small!!!

            Got it!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Dempsey19 View Post
              George Chuvalo is considered by many to have the best chin of any heavyweight ever yet he was small for a heavyweight. Only about 6’ 210 pounds. Practically dwarfed even in his own era let alone today.

              On a side note, Shavers was about the same size and he had, according to many the biggest punch in the heavyweight division.

              How did they both have better chins and bigger punches than men twice their size ?

              Chris Byrd was about their size and he considered himself to be too small for heavyweight.
              There is a theory that once a man is beyond 210 to 220 pounds, no extra size is more helpful. That after this weight, no stronger punch results, no more defensive abilities to take a punch, etc.

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              • #8
                Apparently men are meant to be good at science and mathematics.

                You know? there is something called power to weight ratio. Just because you are bigger does not by any means, MEAN you will be faster, Stronger or have a more powerful punch.

                I have been saying this time and time again, going back in history the fighters where just better athletes. For example for his size, Tyson Fury is quite weak physically, not impressive in the slightest.

                Factoring in that the participation levels where higher in boxing during the past decades, there were always going to be fighters such as Shavers and Chuvalo etc We get a lot of cross over fighters these days, guys who just fell into boxing, or failed in other athletic disputes at times.

                That is why people seem to think they could turn NFL players and Basketball players into great fighters these days. 'Going back in history you was a fighter first and foremost'.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 07-27-2019, 03:53 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
                  Apparently men are meant to be good at science and mathematics.

                  You know? there is something called power to weight ratio. Just because you are bigger does not by any means, MEAN you will be faster, Stronger or have a more powerful punch.

                  I have been saying this time and time again, going back in history the fighters where just better athletes. For example for his size, Tyson Fury is quite weak physically, not impressive in the slightest.

                  Factoring in that the participation levels where higher in boxing during the past decades, there were always going to be fighters such as Shavers and Chuvalo etc We get a lot of cross over fighters these days, guys who just fell into boxing, or failed in other athletic disputes at times.

                  That is why people seem to think they could turn NFL players and Basketball players into great fighters these days. 'Going back in history you was a fighter first and foremost'.
                  Well stated!

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                  • #10
                    Three reasons. Heart, good conditioning and a huge, hairy set of balls. Chuvalo was made for fighting.

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