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  • The plunger man
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    #41
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    I'd rather see "midgets" like Crawford, Lomachenko or Juan Francisco Estrada perform their craft than heavyweights like Tyson Fury or Deontay Wilder.

    It is what it is.
    I think middleweight and welterweight are the purest form of boxing....where the skill then tallys up with punching power.
    I think lomachencko is a freak of nature and i know you don't want to hear this shoulder but i have never seen any fighter in history quite like lomachencko

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      #42
      Originally posted by The plunger man
      I think middleweight and welterweight are the purest form of boxing....where the skill then tallys up with punching power.
      I think lomachencko is a freak of nature and i know you don't want to hear this shoulder but i have never seen any fighter in history quite like lomachencko
      Why would I not want to hear that? I just said that he is one of the fighters I prefer watching.

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      • The plunger man
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        #43
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        Why would I not want to hear that? I just said that he is one of the fighters I prefer watching.
        Because your one of the dark lords of PBC ....and any fighter that threatens those foundations will have hell rained upon them from yours truly and the PBC covenant

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          #44
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          Because your one of the dark lords of PBC ....and any fighter that threatens those foundations will have hell rained upon them from yours truly and the PBC covenant
          Well, obviously you have me all wrong since I just praised the guy.

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          • The plunger man
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            #45
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
            Well, obviously you have me all wrong since I just praised the guy.

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            • QueensburyRules
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              #46
              Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet

              And for example, old Monzón could fight with Hagler but he did want that smoke.
              - -Too much boxing illiteracy from you to respond to, but...

              Monzon beat the future Champ Valdes in 76 while Marv took 2 losses from the local level. In 77 Monzon whooped Valdez again, and these were fights the public and press were calling for while Marv avenged his defeats at the local level.

              Do you deliberately lower the global IQ average or does it come natural to you?

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              • Mexican_Puppet
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                #47
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules
                - -Too much boxing illiteracy from you to respond to, but...

                Monzon beat the future Champ Valdes in 76 while Marv took 2 losses from the local level. In 77 Monzon whooped Valdez again, and these were fights the public and press were calling for while Marv avenged his defeats at the local level.

                Do you deliberately lower the global IQ average or does it come natural to you?
                Jerk, Monzón received an offer to fight with Hagler when he was retired, and he did not want.

                The precise moment when Monzón retired, Hagler avenged his L's, and was very high in the rankings.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Mexican_Puppet
                  Jerk, Monzón received an offer to fight with Hagler when he was retired, and he did not want.

                  The precise moment when Monzón retired, Hagler avenged his L's, and was very high in the rankings.
                  - -Going full frontal lobo on us is it?

                  Every time a fighter retires there are a plethora of ranked fighters he never fought, even the mighty Joe Louis who holds the heavyweight record for title wins.

                  Marv last fought in 1987, and look at all the fighters he "ducked" in spite of receiving dozens of offers.

                  You ever think about getting a frontal transplant? Might help you to keep from drooling.

                  http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Th...eweight--1980s

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                  • them_apples
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni
                    I am sure this has been done before. But I haven't seen any recent threads on the topic.

                    I'll start with some of mine:

                    Muhammad Ali: I'm actually pretty compassionate of the Heavyweights. You can't expect a Lineman to perform ballet or gymnastics. Same, Heavyweights will have challenges fighters in lower divisions don't fact. Still, I feel Ali is greatly overrated. Both as a Heavyweight, and P4P.

                    Sam Langford: On film I don't see the much to be impressed by. Yes, he's one of the best to ever do it, but he's not P4P top 10. Probably his space in the top 25 isn't guaranteed. Very good for his era, but even then it looks like Packey McFarland and Gibbons were truly the best P4P. Sam Langford's KO power made him the best finisher, and his story make him the most memorable. But many fans might over-rank him in compensation for how his was mistreated during his career and largely forgotten until the internet resurrected his legacy.

                    Henry Armstrong: People rank this guy #1 P4P because he won the belt in 3 weight divisions, but he probably never was the best Featherweight or Welterweight. That might be going too far, but really he should be seen as a Lightweight. Many of his Ww title fights were fought closer to the Lw limit, and much of his championship competition was forgettable (to say the least). He did have a great record - but others had better. He does look good on film - but other Lightweights arguably look better. He's definitely top 10. But people get carried away w/ the 3 Championships at once.

                    Ezzard Charles: I have always heard great things about Charles. His record looks solid. And probably the best of him is not on film. But what we do have on film, I wouldn't pick him to beat other Light heavyweights... not definitively. Tunney definitely looks better. Patterson, Conn and Spinks are as good, or slight favorites. People hate on Dempsey, but he was fairly close to Charles in size, and he looks more naturally gifted.
                    Ali and Charles were not overated. Now Ali literally gets called the greatest of all time bar non by everyone so you may have a point there, but Charles is actually underrated. He is by far the best lhw to do it, incredibly high ring iq, this guy would lull his oponents to sleep for 5 rounds and patiently wait to unload that one lazer focused combination and put you to sleep. His resume is second to non at lhw. One of the best resumes in boxing.

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                    • Mr.365
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                      #50
                      Ggg & Bud Crawford

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